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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:17 AM
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Bush used EARPIECE during debate (see video /audio link) Indymedia..!
From John Reynolds:

"I've been thinking for years that we need something major to blow this scam wide open, like bush exposing himself on national tv. Last night bush did just that.

The 'let me finish' quip was clearly bush talking to ( probably Rove) in his earpiece- saying let me finish before you give me the next answer. He blows it 60 sec into his 90 sec reply- so no warning lights had gone off and lehrer had not motioned for him to end as he had plenty of time left.

my guess is that it's an implant, not something stuck in his ear."


http://publish.nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/rate/125456/%... ($g_url)%20?%3Eemailto.php?id=125456
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:18 AM
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1. bad link...
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:21 AM
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2. Interesting, very interesting
I had considered this myself. He really fell apart after that too.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:23 AM
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3. Bush had the worst of both worlds in a debate
Bad facts

Bad speaker
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:27 AM
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4. found the audio, but not the article
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:27 AM
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5. Passive Transducer Technology.
The bulges under his jacket were the receiver of the commands from his handlers and it repeats the signal to the earpiece at low power. Probably digitally encrypted.

This is not new or revolutionary, bleeding-edge technology. E-Systems probably has them on fire sale.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:33 AM
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6. Well, not easy to find the frequency...
... but if you could, and set up a transmitter on the same frequency, there's no end of the fun you could have. Block the signal and listen to the "uh, umms" all night. Put Jimi Hendrix's "Star Spangled Banner" into his head at about 140 dB and watch him twitch. Lay in enough static and weird harmonics that he'd want to tear off his own head.

But, the problem with this analysis is that he pointed in Lehrer's general direction, from the tape I saw, so Lehrer must have looked to Bush as if he were about to interrupt. Or Bush imagined that he was about to. Sort of a preventive strike on the moderator.... :P
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:42 AM
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7. Sure it's easy!
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 10:43 AM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
All you need is a handheld frequency counter, hooked to an antenna, that measures in VHF-UHF frequency ranges. Perhaps up to 2000mhz. Within 2 exchanges you should have their frequency. Of course, if they are using side-band and encrypted, it will make it harder to jam, but not impossible by any means.

Of course, jamming would not only be illegal, but unwise: Do you really want to take the voices out of Chimpy's head? ;-)
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:44 AM
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8. Record it instead of jamming it
If there's something going on, somebody should tune in and record it.
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:47 AM
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9. hard to prove...
a recording could have been made after the fact, unless it's a recognized voice, like Karl Rove or Karen Hughes.

Best to just jam it!

Somebody please do this in the next debates!
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:49 AM
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10. Someone should pipe the audio over the network feed
Imagine 65 million people hearing Rove whispering in Dumbass's ear. The emperor's nudity would be apparent to all.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:02 AM
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14. Well, if they have something...
... designed not to receive at all unless it's encrypted, that would make it quite a bit different situation. I guess I wasn't thinking so much of finding one signal, but rather of discerning it amongst all the other wireless stuff in the area (of which there is likely a great deal).

As for the voices, jamming it would leave just the ones that are there now (wouldn't it be fun to have him ad-libbing "God speaks through me" routines in the middle of the debate?). The other alternative, of course, would be to provide him a whole new set of voices--"We're going to build the economy through a new trade agreement with the Martians...." :P
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:04 PM
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18. Wouldn't work -- Bush's piece is spread spectrum, virtually undectable...
...and virtually unjammable, without killing every other RF link in building with broadband noise of some sort.

All your frequency counter would tell you is that there's a slight increase in the noise floor.
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BrewerJohn Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:57 AM
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13. If they have any kind of tech expertise
They're probably using frequency hopping, so jamming any one frequency would only interfere with small time slices of the transmission. You'd either need a broadband source or else know all the frequencies and jam them all. That would take a lot more power either way. But still fun!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:08 AM
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15. Good point.
If they are using this stuff, and it is military/government grade, you can bet that it is 128 bit digitally encrypted(as good as impossible to crack) and frequency agile, military style, which means it would be nigh onto impossible to figure out which frequencies are being used.

E-Systems makes good stuff.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:09 AM
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16. Quite true...
... I would guess that they have resources we've never seen. But, who would be the most likely source for something like this (if they wanted to keep word of it "in the family")?

The Secret Service. What do they use to communicate? I haven't noticed any of them talking into their wristwatches lately, like Dick Tracy.

That's probably standard issue stuff, and traceable. Ya think??? :)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:05 PM
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26. Hendrix's "Star-Spangled Banner" followed by ...
... "The Stars that Play with Laughing Sam's Dice." Over and over and over and over.

Oh wait a minute. I like it when that happens...

Maybe put in a substitute "verbal" channel:

"Yes, my name is Warlord Moron. I am a drunken coke-whore. I am a media creation. I am an unelected moron. I have never worked a day in my life. My daddy was a secret policeman. My mommy scared me."

There are all sorts of possibilities.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:54 AM
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11. I dunno...
Not discounting the possibility raised here, but I think "let me finish" is another of Bush's stock lines. He's said it before in a press conference - probably designed to make him look authoritative.

When I saw him use it the first time, I assumed a reporter was about to ask a follow-up before Bush finished the first answer. However, in the debate, it was obvious he was not running low on time, no one was interrupting him, and he said it for effect. The effect, however, was bewilderment from Lehrer and the audience.

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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:55 AM
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12. When I first heard this theory
I laughed and brushed it off. That one press conference looked very much like that was what was going on but I chalked it down to coincidence.
As I watched the debate the other night though, I was suddenly struck with the notion that he did indeed seem to have a piece in his ear! I am not a conspiracy theorist type at all but it is awfully coincidental that he keeps looking that way at all his important appearances. Think about it....these people are the richest, most powerful and influential people in the world. You think they couldn't come up with an awesome earpiece/implant that would be completely hidden? Add to that the ruthlessness of Rove and his willingness to sink lower than any political operative has ever sunk......I will not brush this possibility off as conspiracy theory even though it sounds far-fetched. In fact, I would not be at all surprised if it were true.
My fantasy dream of the next debate is that Bush will get all worked up and the earpiece will fall out of his ear onto the podium in clear view!! With 65 million people watching, would that not be the most awesome event in political history?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:29 AM
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17. kick
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:14 PM
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19. I agree 100% this is why he pauses so much while answering questions
His body language says someone is talking in his ear IMO

With the kind of technology their using to do this.

ie the best $ money can buy it would be hard but not impossible to prove.

This fucker is wearing an ear piece was a constant thought I had through Thursday nights debate.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:16 PM
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20. On the upside it didn't help him at all :)
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:23 PM
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21. It's in his RIGHT ear - cochlear implant
I saw him in a few pics with a HUGE bump right at the ear canal, cloae to his jaw line. He later had a plaster on it, but the first pic I saw had no abrasion, just a large bump as if something about the size of a car alarm remote control battery bulging out of his face like he was chewing a gobstopper with his ear.

My guess is that is is a cochlear implant of some kind.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:32 PM
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22. Shhh...Don't Let 'Em Know We Know...
BTW...Teresa was listening in and signaling Rove comments to Kerry who was writing them down. Sheesh.

I'm curious to check out the link, but face it, this boy is not the sharpest tool in the shed and we know he's on soundbite 24/7...and it's drilled into him by Karen Hughes like the drill sargent she is.

When I see the Boy Blunder speak...especially "extemporaneously" he reminds me of an overloaded puter...a question is asked...then there's that flashing of the hard-drive light as the question is processed...then the hour glass as he attempts to formulate the answer that matches with the Pavlovian soundbite Hughes has drummed into his fosilized cranium.

What's the big deal about an earpiece anyway? You can't make a boy sound in command of topics he can't fully comprehend. That was majorly apparent Thursday and here's hoping it gets even better on Friday.
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GDoyle Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:34 PM
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23. Bush's Performance
I don't know whether Bush used an earpiece or not, but I think its patently ridiculous to say he didn't because his performance was too bad. Look, the man is a moron. I think it would be difficult to competently listen to advice on an earpiece, in front of a large audience and 65 million people on TV, while trying to also focus on a question and not let anyone know you are doing it. Its not THAT easy, so year, Bush's performance COULD still be terrible.

Look, if the Republicans had a choice, Bush would be competent enough to not NEED an earpiece. But the man is so stupid and ill-informed that would be even worse than him pausing, listening, being distracted and the other problems an earpiece casues. The ideal is a competent candidate. Since they don't have that, I don't think its beyond the realm of possibility they choose the lesser of two evils by using an earpiece.

GDoyle
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:01 PM
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25. Manufactured Candidate
I thought this boy was being sold as a sack of crap in 2000...having the nomination bought for him and then the skids greased to the nomination and then the selection, and I was amazed at how people were taken by what was so obviously an empty suit. But then, we sure have learned a lot in the past four years.

This was nothing compared to the bubble it appears this regime has built since 9/11. Boy Blunder is kept isolated and on soundbites as a "myth" of this boy's leadership abilities are woven and ingrained in enough people to distract from the real dirty dealings that were going on and to use this manufactured candidate and personna to maintain their grip on power.

If anything, Bunnypants is the ideal Repugnican candidate...or at least the face of the current party leadership. He's shallow, but "likeable"..."plain-spoken" thus the implications is he's disciplined rather than simple. It's a puppet handled by Rove on one side, Hughes on the other that is programmed for whatever photo op or "feel-good" moment they need.

Earpiece or not, the boy's ability to speak coherantly off-script is so obviously inept it's more amusing to watch than iritating...only if this moron wasn't the "most powerful man in the world".

Cheers!
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:41 PM
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24. Do you think the Kerry campaign should
insist in their debate negotiations that Karl Rove be visibly on stage, drinking a glass of water while Bush speaks?
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:06 PM
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27. No ear piece necessary to "hear" messages
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 02:09 PM by MazeRat7
Its been a while but I remember reading about technology that later made it to the consumer market as the "bone phone". It would goes around the neck/shoulders and allows a person to hear music with out the use of conventional headphones or speakers.

It could not be seen since it would be under the shirt and could be used with a receiver if necessary.

Just my 2 cents.... (tinfoil hat is now firmly attached)

MZr7
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:27 PM
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28. Well it's pretty evident that they still couldn't get him to look good
even using his damned earpiece. Just goes to show you. :evilgrin:
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:38 PM
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29. What effect would microwaves have on it?
Hmmmmm...
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