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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:14 PM
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Bush: Kerry would give other nations a veto over national security
If I remember correctly, Kerry said specifically that he would NEVER give other nations 'veto power' over American national security decisions.




http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=6395672

Bush Hits Kerry on U.S. Needing 'Global Test'
Sat Oct 2, 2004 11:33 AM ET

By Steve Holland

COLUMBUS, Ohio (Reuters) - President Bush said on Saturday Democrat John Kerry's debate remark that U.S. preemptive military action should be subject to a "global test" would give other nations a veto over American national security decisions.

"When our country's in danger the president's job is not to take an international poll. The president's job is to defend America," Bush said.

Bush, on a bus tour of must-have Ohio, reacted for the second straight day to points the Massachusetts senator made in their Thursday night debate in Miami, an encounter many Americans thought Kerry won.

The Bush campaign's objective, with polls showing Bush with a modest lead before the Nov. 2 election, was to try to limit any Kerry momentum from the debate, with two more encounters between the candidates planned and a vice presidential debate scheduled in Cleveland on Tuesday night.

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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:17 PM
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1. "Mr. 'President,' are you a liar, or...
... do you just not comprehend things very well?"

What an asshole.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:22 PM
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2. That's an old tired slam that's getting both older and more tired.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:25 PM
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3. No one believes you any more, Georgie n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:26 PM
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4. Lying bush* bastard!
Kerry said just the opposite.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:46 PM
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5. Best things is Bush is still reacting
to the first debate while Kerry is being pre-emptive on the next debate. :bounce:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:52 PM
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6. Chimp never heard of international law?
And then he wonders why allies aren't backing him up.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:52 PM
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7. The REAL Kerry quote is here:
The president always has the right and always has had the right for pre-emptive strike. That was a great doctrine throughout the cold war. And it was always one of the things we argued about with respect to arms control. No president through all of American history has ever ceded and nor would I the right to pre-empt in any way necessary to protect the United States of America.

But if and when you do it, Jim, you've got to do it in a way that passes the test. That passes the global test where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you're doing what you're doing. And you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons.

NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/01/politics/campaign/01dtext.html?pagewanted=13&oref=login
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:53 PM
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8. Pathetic. This "Global Test" Meme is the only ball they think they have
to run with. Here's the context:

No president, though all of American history, has ever ceded, and nor would I, the right to preempt in any way necessary to protect the United States of America.

But if and when you do it, Jim, you have to do it in a way that passes the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you're doing what you're doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons.

Here we have our own secretary of state who has had to apologize to the world for the presentation he made to the United Nations.

KERRY: I mean, we can remember when President Kennedy in the Cuban missile crisis sent his secretary of state to Paris to meet with DeGaulle. And in the middle of the discussion, to tell them about the missiles in Cuba, he said, "Here, let me show you the photos." And DeGaulle waved them off and said, "No, no, no, no. The word of the president of the United States is good enough for me."

How many leaders in the world today would respond to us, as a result of what we've done, in that way? So what is at test here is the credibility of the United States of America and how we lead the world. And Iran and Iraq are now more dangerous -- Iran and North Korea are now more dangerous.

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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:00 PM
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9. Not only doesn't he read
He doesn't listen well either....

What a piece of work. (hard work?)
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:06 PM
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10. These little Bushie Outrages are getting no traction
Everyone knows now that George is a bufoon and that Kerry is a competent intelligent man, who is capable of leading this country in a responsible way.

It won't work
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:58 PM
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11. but...
I thought Kerry was going to ban the bible and force all pregnant women to have abortions!

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