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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:50 PM
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Bush in debate: "The military will be an all-volunteer army." - NOT!
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 01:54 PM by Dems Will Win
"These are baseless political attacks by some trying to use scare tactics," says White House spokesman Jim Morrell. "The president is absolutely opposed to a draft, he doesn't believe it's needed, and he strongly supports having a voluntary military force."

The president himself touched on the subject when he said during his debate with Kerry Thursday night in Miami: "The military will be an all-volunteer army."

The latest rumors got the most attention after Kerry, the Democratic candidate for president, addressed a crowd in West Palm Beach, Fla., on Sept. 22. He was asked by a woman about a congressional bill to reinstate the draft.

"I will tell you this," Kerry said. "I will not reinstate the draft unless the United States of America faced the kind of global attack or conflagration where everybody in America understood through an open, democratic process we needed to defend this nation in that means."

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PRINT THE PDF: http://somnamblst.tripod.com/draftalert.pdf
HANG THIS FLYER EVERYWHERE

This is a SPECIAL MILITARY DRAFT ALERT. THIS IS NOT THE RANGEL DRAFT BILL, THIS IS NEW! THIS IS BUSH QUIETLY READYING THE COMBAT DRAFT AND HAVING THE SELECTIVE SERVICE CREATE A NEW DRAFT FOR 2005.

In May, the Seattle Post Intelligencer published an article about a document they received through the Freedom of Information Act. It was revealed that the SSS is currently “designing procedures” for the implementation of a “Skills Draft” after holding a top-level meeting on it with Deputy Undersecretaries at the Defense Department. The top-level This draft would change the very mission of the Selective Service and require “virtually every young American”, male and female ages 18-34, to register for the Skills Draft and list all the occupations they are proficient in to fill labor shortages throughout nearly the entire government.

Here, for the first time, is the FOI document itself:

http://blatanttruth.org/selective_service091304.pdf

This document is real, having been acknowledged by the DoD and the SSS when they said no action is being taken on it at the present time, as reported:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/171522_draft01.html

Although Congress would have to approve new legislation to create a Skills Draft or reinstate the combat draft, Family Circle reported in its July 13 issue that Karl Rove has polled GOP members of Congress in September 2002 to see if they would support the President if he requests reinstatement. The Republicans said they would vote for the draft.

In addition, the SSS itself has said that it is “designing procedures” (Seattle PI, May 1, 2004) to implement the skills draft, meaning designing the compliance cards and the data fields needed to keep track of “virtually every young American” and their skills. Acting Director of the SSS Brodsky has also said the Skills Draft is the “top priority” of the Selective Service for 2004. The Issue Paper options include:

- Allow a non-combat draft for shortages in critical skills, without calling a combat draft.

- Fill labor shortages of all kinds throughout not only DoD but the Dept. of Homeland Security and other agencies, especially high-paying professionals like computer networking specialist or linguist.

- Create a single-point, all-inclusive database, in which every young person would be forced to send in a “self-declaration” of all of their critical skills, chosen from a long list of occupations like the Armed Forces Specialty Code. The usual penalties of imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine would apply to all non-registrants.

In the secret planning meeting document, the next steps strongly recommended by SSS Acting Director Brodsky were:

1. “Promptly” redefine the SSS Mission to draft men and women up to age 34 for skills, and deliver them within 90 days or sooner to the Department of Defense. Program a massive database to be ready to enter millions of names of those registering their critical skills.

2. Expand mission to deliver personnel in skills draft to the Department of Homeland Security and other agencies, including FEMA, NSC, Border Patrol, INS, Customs, Corporation for National Service, Public Health Service and other agencies.

3. Form interagency task force to provide Administration with recommendation on this skills draft for the entire government.

4. Obtain White House Statement of Administration Policy on the future of the SSS.

5. Be prepared to market the skills draft, raising the non-combat age to 34 and the drafting of women to the Armed Services and Appropriations Committee.

In contrast to this planning and preparation to create a targeted draft, Kerry plans to spend an additional $7 billion to strengthen the Volunteer Army in what is essentially a “No-Draft Plan”. Moreover, Kerry is strongly opposed to the neo-con plan revealed in Wes Clark’s book Winning Modern Wars, in which Clark was told by a senior Pentagon official that invasions of Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Sudan and Somalia were planned and still to come over the next three years.

MORE: http://blatanttruth.org/draft.php

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05

KERRY '04 = PNAC OUT THE DOOR!

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jn2375 Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:52 PM
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1. Liar, Liar pants on FIRE
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:03 PM
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2. Kerry shouldn't have said this...
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 02:04 PM by sonicx
"I will tell you this," Kerry said. "I will not reinstate the draft unless the United States of America faced the kind of global attack or conflagration where everybody in America understood through an open, democratic process we needed to defend this nation in that means."

Tommorrow, Bush will say...

"My opponent's considering a draft"
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:04 PM
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3. It's just that the government is the one who volunteers people.
You won't get drafted. You'll get "volunteered."
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:10 PM
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4. And here's the secret plan:


Printable pdf: http: http://somnamblst.tripod.com/draftalert.pdf

In May, the Seattle Post Intelligencer published an article about a document they received through the Freedom of Information Act. It was revealed that the SSS is currently “designing procedures” for the implementation of a “Skills Draft” after holding a top-level meeting on it with Deputy Undersecretaries at the Defense Department. This draft would change the very mission of the Selective Service and require “virtually every young American”, male and female ages 18-34, to register for the Skills Draft and list all the occupations they are proficient in to fill labor shortages throughout nearly the entire government.

Here, for the first time, is the FOI document itself:

http://blatanttruth.org/selective_service091304.pdf

This document is real, having been acknowledged by the DoD and the SSS when they said no action is being taken on it at the present time, as reported:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/171522_draft01.html

Although Congress would have to approve new legislation to create a Skills Draft or reinstate the combat draft, Family Circle reported in its July 13 issue that Karl Rove has polled GOP members of Congress in September 2002 to see if they would support the President if he requests reinstatement. The Republicans said they would vote for the draft.

In addition, the SSS itself has said that it is “designing procedures” (Seattle PI, May 1, 2004) to implement the skills draft, meaning designing the compliance cards and the data fields needed to keep track of “virtually every young American” and their skills. Acting Director of the SSS Brodsky has also said the Skills Draft is the “top priority” of the Selective Service for 2004. The Issue Paper options include:

- Allow a non-combat draft for shortages in critical skills, without calling a combat draft.

- Fill labor shortages of all kinds throughout not only DoD but the Dept. of Homeland Security and other agencies, especially high-paying professionals like computer networking specialist or linguist.

- Create a single-point, all-inclusive database, in which every young person would be forced to send in a “self-declaration” of all of their critical skills, chosen from a long list of occupations like the Armed Forces Specialty Code. The usual penalties of imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine would apply to all non-registrants.

In the secret planning meeting document, the next steps strongly recommended by SSS Acting Director Brodsky were:

1. “Promptly” redefine the SSS Mission to draft men and women up to age 34 for skills, and deliver them within 90 days or sooner to the Department of Defense. Program a massive database to be ready to enter millions of names of those registering their critical skills.

2. Expand mission to deliver personnel in skills draft to the Department of Homeland Security and other agencies, including FEMA, NSC, Border Patrol, INS, Customs, Corporation for National Service, Public Health Service and other agencies.

3. Form interagency task force to provide Administration with recommendation on this skills draft for the entire government.

4. Obtain White House Statement of Administration Policy on the future of the SSS.

5. Be prepared to market the skills draft, raising the non-combat age to 34 and the drafting of women to the Armed Services and Appropriations Committee.

In contrast to this planning and preparation to create a targeted draft, Kerry plans to spend an additional $7 billion to strengthen the Volunteer Army in what is essentially a “No-Draft Plan”. Moreover, Kerry is strongly opposed to the neo-con plan revealed in Wes Clark’s book Winning Modern Wars, in which Clark was told by a senior Pentagon official that invasions of Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Sudan and Somalia were planned and still to come over the next three years..

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05

KERRY '04 = PNAC OUT THE DOOR!

For more Flyers: http://somnamblst.tripod.com/
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:44 PM
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5. Bush won't reinstate the draft just like he doesn't
like nation-building.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:21 AM
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6. KICK
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:42 AM
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7. In other threads
I have talked about Charlie Abell, who was the head asshole at that little meeting discussed in the Blatant Truth PDF cited above. Charlie was a lousy officer who failed to select to 0-6 and retired, a GOP political appointee who transitioned to the career track, then got back on the political track when weewee stole the election, a guy who lists as his educational achievements a master's degree from a DIPLOMA MILL (you get more money based on education) and quite simply, A BULLY. Make that an IGNORANT BULLY.

In the OSD, Rumsfeld is clearly the most hated by both military and civilian personnel. If you go one rung lower, I think Charlie would take the prize. He is an arrogant suckup and a shill, with absolutely no redeeming qualities. He is both mean and vindictive, a lot like the pretender to the throne.

If I were Kerry, he'd be on my short-short list--I'd want his resignation on my desk right after I said the words "So help me God" in the oath of office. He shouldn't let the door hit him on his way out. He will cheerfullly sacrifice anyone, anything for power and control--including the blood of our youth.

Stupidity and arrogance are a very dangerous combination.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 03:31 PM
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8. The "Honorable" Charles Abell??
I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that not-nice people have been appointed by our fearless leader! <sarcasm off>
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