CONDDOOLLEEZZAA!!!! Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!

[Bluebear]

Sunday New York Times: "Skewed Intelligence Data in March to War in Iraq"

In 2002, at a crucial juncture on the path to war, senior members of the Bush administration gave a series of speeches and interviews in which they asserted that Saddam Hussein was rebuilding his nuclear weapons program.

In a speech to veterans that August, Vice President Dick Cheney said Mr. Hussein could have an atomic bomb "fairly soon." The next month, Mr. Cheney told a group of Wyoming Republicans the United States had "irrefutable evidence" - thousands of tubes made of high-strength aluminum, tubes that the Bush administration said were destined for clandestine Iraqi uranium centrifuges, before some were seized at the behest of the United States.

The tubes quickly became a critical exhibit in the administration's brief against Iraq. As the only physical evidence the United States could brandish of Mr. Hussein's revived nuclear ambitions, they gave credibility to the apocalyptic imagery invoked by President Bush and his advisers. The tubes were "only really suited for nuclear weapons programs," Condoleezza Rice, the president's national security adviser, asserted on CNN on Sept. 8, 2002. "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

Before Ms. Rice made those remarks, though, she was aware that the government's foremost nuclear experts had concluded that the tubes were most likely not for nuclear weapons at all, an examination by The New York Times has found. Months before, her staff had been told that these experts, at the Energy Department, believed the tubes were probably intended for small artillery rockets.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/international/middleeast/03tube.html?oref=login&hp&oref=regi

[RebelYell]

1. They call this news? n/t

[Jacobin]

5. How timely.....Now that we have invaded and have a catastrophe

on our hands, NOW they report this.....something that's been out there for fucking years.

Disgusting

[annabanana]

2. glad to see it in print..............n/t

But so many lies are already documented, it's just one more thing.

Question: How many straws does it take to break a camel's back?

[Bluebear]

4. Lordy, the article is like 18 pages long!

[spanone]

6. TWENTY on my printer.

[cheshire]

7. I have lost count do you think Alan Greenspan could help.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

3. There are many different ways to build a nuclear bomb.

Those tubes might not be used in the middle of a bomb
but they could be used on the outside as the exhaust
system for the bomb. I'm sure there are a lot of things Ms
Rice knows about nuclear bombs and so forth that you never
dreamed of. Let's all not be so hasty in jumping to conclusions
about what goes into a nuclear bomb or not.

[Jacobin]

8. Yes. They might have been for the muffler or maybe for the suspension

They could have been welded together to make a stand to put the bomb on while they were working on it. They could have used the tubes for a frame for the building where they put it together. Like any number of things, right Condi?

[Bluebear]

10. "Stop asking me so many questions!"

[A-Schwarzenegger]

12. Exactly. They might be Iraqies

but that doesn't mean they can't have
a Little American ingenuityousness. When you're
building a home-made nuclear bomb, you use whatever's
handy--beeswax, peanut shells, bobby pins, Magic Orange,
tubes, whatever.

[AZCat]

9. It's not Ms. Rice, it's Dr. Rice...

And while she may know a few things about nukes that I don't (or not) I'm fairly certain that she doesn't know more than the people tasked to investigate the claims of nuclear proliferation.

Remember: this is the same Dr. Rice that claimed that no-one thought of flying planes into buildings before September 11th, 2001.

[Roland99]

13. She should lose her license

Or let Edwards sue her for malpractice and malfeasance! :)

[Bluebear]

14. Yes, they are always so careful to say DOCTOR Rice....

Yet Senator Kerry is "My opponent" to Bush. Disgraceful!

[oasis]

11. Experts at the Energy Department beg to differ with you and Condi.

[DeepModem Mom]

15. Will TV news give this story the attention it deserves???