woomp there it is!

[drdigi420]

kerry 47, bush 45

toast
bush is
bush is toast

[RoyGBiv]

1. Link? n/t

[jn2375]

2. What were Newsweek polls before the debate?

How big a turn around?

[Doosh]

5. Bush was up 6

[RoyGBiv]

7. 52 - 41

Last Newsweek poll I saw had Bush ahead 52-41. Was there are more recent one?

[Doosh]

8. oops, that might be the TIME poll

52-41, you're probably right

[papau]

9. 9/11/04 Bush 49-43 RV 3 way

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5915140/site/newsweek/

Sept. 4 - Coming out of the Republican National Convention in New York, President George W. Bush now holds a 11-point lead over Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry (52 percent to 41 percent) in a three-way race, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll. The poll was taken over two nights, both before and after Bush’s acceptance speech. Respondents who were queried only on Friday, after Bush’s speech, gave the Republican a 16-point lead over Kerry.

Bush/Cheney Lead Kerry/Edwards 54 to 43 Percent; in a Three-Way Trial Heat, Bush/Cheney Receive 13-Point Margin Bounce
Bush Approval Rating Rises to 52 Percent; First Time Above 50 Since January; Majority (53%) Wants to See Him Re-Elected-Highest Since May 2003

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NEWSWEEK POLL: Campaign 2004
Saturday September 11, 11:44 am ET
Voters Split Over Bush's Military Service; 42 Percent Have Serious Doubts, Same Number Says He Fulfilled Obligations
Bush/Cheney Leads Kerry/Edwards 49 to 43 Percent In Three-Way Trial Heat; Leads 50 to 45 In Two-Way Heat
Forty-Two Percent of Independents Say Both Campaigns Have Been Too Negative


NEW YORK, Sept. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- From what they've seen, heard or read about the controversy over President George W. Bush's service in the National Guard at the time of the Vietnam War, registered voters are split over whether he fulfilled his military obligations, according to the latest Newsweek Poll. Forty-two percent say Bush did fulfill his obligations for military service; the same number (42%) say they have serious doubts about it, the poll shows. Just 18 percent of registered voters say Bush's National Guard issue has made them less likely to vote for him in November; 73 percent say it hasn't had much of an effect either way, the poll shows. Five percent say it will make them more likely to vote for him.
And from what they've seen, heard or read about Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry's military service in Vietnam, just 17 percent of registered voters say it has made them less likely to vote for him, the poll shows. Sixty-four percent say it hasn't made much of a difference either way. Fifteen percent say it has made them more likely to vote for him, the poll shows.

One week after the GOP convention, the latest Newsweek Poll shows Bush's bounce slowly deflating. In a three-way trial heat, the Bush/Cheney ticket gets 49 percent of the vote among registered voters; the Kerry/Edwards ticket gets 43 percent of the vote; Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo get 2 percent, the poll shows. One week ago, in the Newsweek Poll taken at the end of the GOP convention and the day after the convention, Bush/Cheney had pulled to an 11- point lead (52% v. 41%) with 3 percent for Nader/Camejo. In a two-way trial without the Nader ticket, among registered voters, Bush/Cheney are ahead of Kerry/Edwards 50 to 45 percent, with five percent of registered voters undecided. One week ago in the two-way race, Bush/Cheney were ahead of Kerry/Edwards 54 to 43 percent with three percent undecided.

[RoyGBiv]

6. 13 points ...

Which means their polling method has some serious flaws. This race doesn't have enough elasticity in it to allow that kind of swing inside of a couple weeks.

I really, really wish people would stop paying so much attention to these polls, especially the pop vote polls, good or bad. They're not balanced; they're not accurate; they don't measure anything substantial.

[wryter2000]

10. Love your colorful logon name

While you're right about the validity of the polls, at least this apparent swing toward Kerry will shut the freepers up. That, in itself, is a great service. Their cockiness since the convention in NY has been intolerable.

[RoyGBiv]

11. This is true ...

I hadn't thought of that.

And thanks. :hi: :hi:

[wryter2000]

12. Back atcha

:bounce: :hi:

[wryter2000]

3. Pity the linkless

Oh awesome one who found this before me, kindly supply a link so I can bask in the glory. :loveya:

[drdigi420]

4. no link, just heard it on the radio

newsweek poll, so take it with a grain of sodium