Get a load of this biased Newsweek Poll

[Xipe Totec]

The question:

"Over his 19-year career in the U.S. Senate, John Kerry has changed his position on a number of issues. From what you know about Kerry, why do you think this is?"

Who the fuck says he changes position? :wtf:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6144520/site/newsweek/

I got a question for Newsweek: When did you stop being a news organization and start taking money to spread GOPher shit?

[liberal_in_GA]

1. This is exactly the kind of shit

we need to keep calling the whoring media on!

[goju]

2. Not sure Id be so quick to alienate them

It depends on how they phrase the question, and how respondents receive the question. Its not always perfect. But, here is some light at the end of the tunnel...Newsweek has Kerry ahead of the chimp by 2 points according to Msnbc/drudge.

[krkaufman]

3. Saw that on Norville's show (with the Daily Show writers)

Kerry 48%
Bush 46%

... but it was a 2-way race, sans Nutso.

[ZombieNixon]

5. Avec Nutso

it's 47-45-1 Kerry

[krkaufman]

8. Excellent. Thanks for that update. n/t

"Avec Nutso"... chuckle.

[Xipe Totec]

4. Nevertheless, the statement is unsupported

Where does the "Over his 19-year career in the U.S. Senate, John Kerry has changed his position on a number of issues" come from?

Who says that is true?

If you look at the possible responses there's no way to reply without admitting that Kerry flip-flops on issues. The only choice they give you is to decide WHY he flip-flops. That's a load of crap, no different than the question:

"When did you stop beating your wife?"

[goju]

15. I tend to disagree

Being a senator, or any politician for that matter, for 20 years and you will have "seemingly" contradictory positions. That doesnt mean you've flip flopped.

The answer to the question should be: S Kerry's voting record can be interpreted in many different ways. You can call it a flip flop, or you can actually look at the votes he cast and take them case by case. If you choose the latter, you will truly understand why Kerry should be president. It is because of his ability to put his vote toward the good of the country, not politics, that makes S Kerry the right choice.

[Bluebear]

6. I would hop over 19 years that your opinions would change!

Opinions change due to currently realities. How many times has the right said "EVERYTHING CHANGED ON 9/11"!!

I respect a man who adapts to reality rather than one who is resolute even when proven wrong.

[Xipe Totec]

10. Kerry is no different than others in changing his mind?

Then why make it a point to ask why Kerry has changed positions over the last 19 years? Why is that an important question, worthy of a poll?

Answer: It isn't.

The only reason to ask the question is to drive the point "Kerry is a flip-flopper". We should not let them get away with it, no mater how much sugar they put on top of it by merging it with other poll questions who's answers we happen to like, such as "who won the debate", or "who do you support for president".

This is not the time to get complacent and let them get away with ANYTHING.

[yardwork]

7. Sounds like a push-poll

The Saudis have a lot of financial interest in Newsweek and its parent corp.

[never cry wolf]

9. Actually, it's an interesting poll, DU it everyone!

And the possibly response for the question you picked out has a fair answer.

Kerry pretty much kicking ass on all the questions.

[pinkpops]

13. yes, do. It is ok to "change your vote" as circumstances change

otherwise we would let out horse carry us down the waterfall.

[Xipe Totec]

14. If you want to DU the poll You need to navigate to it from the main page

The initial post picks an ID and thinks you already voted.

Start here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

Then go to the top story, titled: "Pol shows Democrat even with Bush after debate"

Half-way down the page there is a link to the poll, titled: "Who was the better debater? Tell us what you think after the first head-to-head matchup. Click here to take our poll"

[louis c]

11. How About This Question

"Do you Think That George Bush's Twentey Years of Alcoholism and Drug Abuse contributed in any way to his incoherent babbling during Thursday Night's Debate?"

[Xipe Totec]

16. LOL! There you go!

After 20 years of Limbaugh, Coulter, and the rest of the Republican noise machine, we can't let them get away with ANYTHING.

The same question could have been framed:

"Do you think Kerry is intelligent enough to respond to new information and change US policy to better serve the interest of the American people?"

Isn't that, in essence, the same question?





:think:

[alarcojon]

12. It's a bullshit question, but....

There's lots of good news here. Even on this question, the web respondents overwhelmingly (77 to 19) felt he adapts to changing circumstances versus says what he has to to get elected. The scientific poll has this at 47/47, which is not bad considering how often this talking point has been hammered into everyone's brain.

Some other highlights: only 10% in the scientific poll think Bush's policies have improved our image around the world, while 60% think they have led to an increase in anti-Americanism. We need to build on this.

In the scientific poll, Kerry won the debate 61/19. Rove can spin it all he wants, and we can keep throwing numbers like that right back in his fat face. Also notice that 53% of respondents saw all or most of the debate (and three quarters watched at least some), so most of the country is less susceptible to Rove's b.s.

[Xipe Totec]

17. The numbers are good, but the question undermines Kerry

It hammers the flip-flop point. Essentially it asks: "Why do you think Kerry flip-flops?"

In a race this close nothing should be left to chance. The question should be rephrased: "Who do you think is more able to adjust US policy to serve the interest of the United States and its people, George W. Bush, or John F. Kerry?"

See, isn't that a much more sensible question? :eyes:

Ok, so it's biased in the opposite direction. I still like it better.

:dem: