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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:59 PM
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W Is A Defective Product and Rove Is A Moron
This is a repost, but it seemed appropriate in light of the debate and the WP article about the dissarray in Buscho. world. People have been writing threads as well suggesting that this is some kind of set up to lower expectations or "rope a dope". It's not. This is Bush's astounding incompetence coming to light.


Remember when you were a kid and some new toy would come along and the commercials for it were plastered all over the Saturday morning cartoons and before you knew it everyone you knew had one and of course, you had to get one too? It looked so great in the commercial, shiny and fun and promising endless enjoyment. I'm sure it happened numerous times during your childhood. Only, you get the toy and it's not nearly as fun as it looked and it breaks after using it a couple of times. The dissapointment and resentment would well up every time you saw the commercial after that. You knew the truth now and no amount of marketing would ever get you to buy another one of those toys. Maybe they'd sucker you in again for a NEW product, but that toy? History.

Bush is that toy. He was sold to the American people through a marketing and propoganda campaign of epic proportions. 9/11 didn't change Bush, it changed the way the country saw him. The country desperately needed a leader and they projected everything they thought a leader should be into Bush. Unfortunately for Bush and his bosses, they picked a defective product to foist on the American people.

The lustre has worn off and no amount of PR or marketing or propoganda can bring the people back to once again accept what they now know is a defective product. Bush's neocon bosses might have actually been able to pull off their complete seizure of the country if they had picked a different puppet. Someone who had at least a modicum of competence. Bush is not that puppet. He has neither the competence, the charisma or the intelligence. He's lazy, incurious, dull-witted, boorish, obnoxious and astoundingly arrogant. He's defective through and through right down to the very core of his essence and no amount of propoganda or PR will make people believe otherwise now.

And in addition, Rove, who one can say is the puppet master, is not all he's cracked up to be. I've never shared the opinion of many that Rove is brilliant. I've always thought he was a low-brow, ham fisted goon with a few obvious moves: Massive full frontal attack, or backstab and bait and switch. He's over rated.

Always remember, he didn't get the Chimp in by WINNING the election. If he could have done it that way, with smarts and finesse, I would say it was brilliant. To actually successfully sell a defective product takes brilliance. His tactics however, were ruthless thuggery and threats of violence and complete reliance on the Supreme Court. Nothing brilliant there. The Chimps approval ratings skyrocketed because of 9/11, not Rove's brilliance. A brilliant Political strategist would have been able to sustain those numbers. Rove is unable to do that and has NEVER been able to do that. He's a moron and he sucks at his job. He doesn't understand subtlety or nuance or the big picture. He's neither the intellect, the insight or the instincts of a brilliant person. What he does have is vicious ruthlessness in abundance and a propensity to take big risks. That's not brilliant, as a matter of fact, with no sense of moderation, it's quite stupid.

There's no marketing tactic, no amount of propoganda, no selling this defective product anymore. The best they can hope for is another anemic, short-lived blip in the polls as a result of some stunt, like capturing Bin Laden. This ride is over.

Keep in mind, I'm not claiming they won't "win" the next election, they very well might, but it won't be because they get the most votes.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:01 AM
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1. He would have been on the bottom of my toy box
years ago.

No action, no amusement...the damn thing kept cutting me....
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:12 AM
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3. No way did Rove want Bush to hit the mat like he did on Friday.
Who on earth thinks that? Kerry and company roped THEM in.
Rove's audacity and willingness to go to extremes works when he is in a position of strength. He is not in that position now. Nothing on the horizon short of a miracle or huge surprise will pull him out of this ditch. The debate was like a round of Texas hold em, Rove went all in and lost. Just my opinion. YMMV.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:06 AM
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2. DON'T EVER UNDERESTIMATE ROVE!!!!
That guy has evil ideas that none of us would have ever thought of!

I happen to think we give a lot more credit to Rove than he deserves. This is not just Rove. Karen, Cheney, Rummy,and all shrubs cabinet are helping with this.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:23 AM
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4. DON'T EVER UNDERESTIMATE CARVILLE!!!
He is genius - above rovian parlor tricks. Carville is a brilliant mind that will SHAME these vultures. They see evil - he sees AMERICA.

I cried tears of happiness when I found out Carville was on the team.

If I were 10 years older..... damn.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:26 AM
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5. I think he needs a new and improved model. Mary is pathetic. I love him 2
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:29 AM
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6. All I can say is ....
THE SEX MUST BE AWESOME!!!!


Why else would he be w/her?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 01:50 AM
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7. Excellent post.
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 01:53 AM by 4_year_nightmare
I like these two points:

(1) 9/11 didn't change Bush, it changed the way the country saw him. The country desperately needed a leader and they projected everything they thought a leader should be into Bush. Unfortunately for Bush and his bosses, they picked a defective product to foist on the American people.

(2)The Chimps approval ratings skyrocketed because of 9/11, not Rove's brilliance. A brilliant Political strategist would have been able to sustain those numbers.

Edited to add my own words to that last sentence: A brilliant political strategist would have been able to sustain those numbers without relying on secrecy and debauchery.



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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 08:35 PM
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8. Nice Addition
Thanks!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:17 AM
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9. .
n/t
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