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Captain Absolut Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:41 PM
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Clark is taking a page from the Book of Clinton
...and it's a beautiful thing.

This may have been said in a previous post, but I don't read all posts so who knows.

Some CNN poll just said that it's Dean with 24% and Clark with 20% out of registered democrats. That's up from 27% for Dean and 12% for Clark in December.

Clark is doing exactly what Clinton did at this time. He's making himself appealing to a broad selection of people by giving a vision of a better America. He's telling people to dream of a better America under his presidency. It's a simple, yet effective way of getting people to support you.

Discuss whether you think I'm right or wrong on this.
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ClarkGraham2004 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:42 PM
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1. Clark is the new Comeback Kid.
Gotta a big media boost at first, but then faded---only to come back dramatically in the end.




www.clark04.com
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:45 PM
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2. Here is some proof you are right
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 02:45 PM by Bleachers7
This came today. No one was talking about it. It is another new speech.

http://www.clark04.com/speeches/027/

(As prepared for delivery)
Manchester, NH
January 10, 2004
Thank you for that kind introduction. Now that's what I call a warm welcome! And thank you Jeremy Elliot for those nice words. It's a good thing you're not old enough to run for president, or I'd be reckoning with another fierce competitor. I'd like to recognize former Senator Harris Wofford. I'd also like to thank the conference co-chairs, Professors Phillip Kate Huckins,Wayne Lesperance and Jim Walsh of New England College. And I'd like to thank New England College for hosting this important convention - and all of you for bearing the cold and making your way here this morning.

You know, when I was in college I did whatever I could to avoid waking up early on Saturday mornings. So your attendance today is a testament to your commitment to the democratic process, and a sign that we're clearly doing something right in America.

It's been a few years since I was in college. But if there's one thing I remember like yesterday, it's the excitement I felt my first day of college at West Point. I remember that feeling of being part something so important - something so much bigger than me. That feeling led me to a career of service in the United States Army.

I hope you remember, just as fondly, the work you're doing for this election - and the satisfaction of being involved and getting others involved. This election is like none other in your lifetime, or in mine. It isn't just another partisan battle between Democrats and Republicans. It's a fundamental contest between totally different visions of America's future. And you are part of it. And I thank you for that.

I remember when I was about your age, sitting in front of the television, watching another Democrat talk about the importance of another election. That man was John F. Kennedy and the year was 1961. It was at the height of the Cold War, when our nation faced a growing nuclear threat. President Kennedy challenged my generation, with those now famous words, to ask not what our country could do for us, but what we could do for our country. We answered that call, because we believed in the America of tomorrow, we knew that we had responsibility in shaping it - not just for our own sake, but for the fate of the free world.

Today, we have arrived at another historical crossroads. The choices we make right now will not only affect where we'll be tomorrow, but where we'll be a generation from now.

I'm here to talk about my vision for America.

Several months ago, I talked about looking a hundred years ahead. And I asked how will the United States fare in such a world? How will we maintain our standard of living? What will we pass on to our grandchildren? Will we still be the leading power in the world?

Many have asked me, "How do we get there?" Others have warned half cynically that in American politics you can't talk about 100 year visions - politicians don't think that far ahead. Fair enough, but I'm not a politician. So today, I want to lay the groundwork for us to think about our world a century from now. I want to do that by providing a little of the connective tissue - by focusing on what we'll find in the next twenty years.

This is a speech about our future. It's not about 2004. It's about America in 2024. It's about what kind of country we want to be twenty years from now -- and the world we want to leave for our children. The world I want to leave for my grandson, Wes, who was born three weeks ago on Christmas Day.
<snip>
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:58 PM
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14. Well, he sure does inspire me nt
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:37 PM
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17. The vision thing
I'd say he has it.

Great speech; thanks for posting it, Bleachers.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:46 PM
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3. you is right!!
ooh..could you whip me up a nice cold absolut & cranberry juice for me...got a hangover

welcome to DU
:toast:
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Captain Absolut Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:52 PM
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11. Well
I've been reading at DU for a while. I just don't post that often. I get tied up in reading for hours at a time.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:29 PM
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19. LOL!
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 09:30 PM by crunchyfrog
I know exactly what your talking about!
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ClarkGraham2004 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:49 PM
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6. Blinky? BWAHAHAHA
Press: Governor Dean, what are your thoughts on the new immigration policy?

Dean: (eyes widen, blinks rapidly) .....
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:50 PM
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8. actually, i meant Bonehead in the WH ...
but hey, I'll take laughs wherever I can get them.

:toast:
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ClarkGraham2004 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:52 PM
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10. You have to admit though
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 02:52 PM by ClarkGraham2004
There is a sort of similarity there. A deer in the headlights thing.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:48 PM
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5. The Clark strategy is sound.
Making a move in NH before February third is appropriate from a purely strategic perspective.

The stuff about "vision" is fluff of course; everyone says it.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:54 PM
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12. But that fluff
gives people a positive outlook for the future.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:56 PM
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13. That's why *everybody* does it.
Very few offer negative, unpleasant details that suggest a pessimistic future as a campaign message.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 03:10 PM
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16. Vision and words are very important
A president saying one wrong word (like "crusade" for instance) can enrage millions of people around the world. So having a positive and inclusive message is important, not just for Americans, but globally.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:49 PM
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7. it is a beautiful thing
Wes Clark gives me hope for the future of my children and their children and all the people of the world. :)
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:51 PM
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9. I've been saying since a year ago: Positive will work against Bush
It's a political truism that it takes a positive vision to win, and I don't think any of the candidates are unaware of that--the "angry" Dean included. Hell, Lieberman himself seems to be making "Let's be nice and get along with the RepubliCons; we're all Americans" the center of his campaign.

But after 4 years of fear--failing economy, job security, and of course "Terror terror terror, be very afraid and we'll protect you!" from Bushcorp--it's truer than ever, I think. Giving people a vision of something other than more war, more terror, more surveillance for ever and ever amen would be a powerful weapon against Bush if you had someone who could really sell it convincingly.

Clark does it better than any of 'em, for me. Doesn't mean the others aren't doing it or can't. But for me he's the most sincere and--because of his background, not just militarily but socially and educationally--the most convincing at it.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 03:06 PM
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15. You mean it's not his SWEATERS?.......
hahahaha.....:)
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 08:46 PM
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18. Good to take a page from a two time winner.
Who would have won a third time, if he could have run.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:06 PM
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20. CNN Might Want to Check the Newer Newsweek Poll
Dean: 24
Clark: 12
Gep: 12
Kerry: 11
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http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04dem.htm
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