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Sun Oct-03-04 03:23 PM
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Crawford News email. We can run an ad........ |
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I asked if we could run an ad. The AD I proposed was on the lines of The DU has heard of the Crawford Iconoclast newspapers recent decline of it's towns support and have therefore taken this ad out to let them know that we will do everything we can to make up for the loss of support from their home town citizens. DU has subscribed, and or just outright contributed to the newspaper because we believe in the freedom of speech and abhor anyone who would trample the fifth admendment in order to support such a (to be discussed)leader. The cost is $713.00 for a full page ad. I assume for one day. I think this is important but I'm not sure if getting it out in their faces without help. I am concerned about the Kerry campaigns support of this. Any ideas friends?
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:27 PM
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1. If 713 DUers put a dollar in |
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we could run a beautiful ad for at least one day!
Thanks for getting this info, dieharder:)
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:28 PM
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2. Ask what Skinner or some of those guys that are more in the know say. |
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:31 PM
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3. How? sorry I have no clue. Can we keep this kicked. Thanks I think it |
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could be big news to all media outlets.
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:31 PM
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:35 PM
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Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 03:46 PM by dieharderdem
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:52 PM
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11. Alert folks if you get feedback from Skinner |
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Please alert us to continue with followup work/money.
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:54 PM
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13. Oh not to worry I'm on a mission from God.I think this is the kind of |
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thing Rethugs hate. Anything that is kind and unlike them.
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:57 PM
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We're right there with ya!
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Sun Oct-03-04 07:49 PM
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Any music there?
As opposed to 'unkind and like them'!
On a mission like a rat terrier and a rat out in the open ground, huh?
Glad I'm not the rat. Go get 'em!
I feel like a frog surrounded by storks. Eight BC04 signs on the street and only my K/E sign. So I'm putting out 'accessory signs' under it. I rotate a new one every day. Very inflammatory, but true.
Just like that frog in the cartoon with the whole body disappeared in the mouth of the stork. Only the hind and front legs protrude from the mouth. The front legs/hands are wrapped about the throat of the stork choking the shit out of it. With the caption: Never give in, never give up, never say die!
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:40 PM
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Maybe we should run a full page ad listing the Bill of Rights.
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:42 PM
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7. I'd paypal $5-10 to help |
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:45 PM
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9. I think we can add it, I was hoping Dems in Crawford would plaster them up |
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:50 PM
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Will cost some bills, but let's see.
Bill of Rights versus Hatriot Act?
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:42 PM
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8. I believe the paper is a weekly, |
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Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 03:43 PM by txindy
if that helps any with the decision to advertise. I think it's an excellent idea. It may also help local advertisers realize the paper will not fold up and go away when * goes down, so they will have faith enough to keep their own businesses advertising. They're just shooting themselves in the foot if they don't.
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:52 PM
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I'll throw a few bucks in.
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Sun Oct-03-04 03:56 PM
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14. Would you send it to my paypal account? If they don't have one. |
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:30 PM
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19. only if it goes to the proper cause |
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I might be dumb, but I'm not stupid!
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:56 PM
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29. I too have trouble with trust, how can I convince you. You really don't |
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want to because you are making it impossible. Don't know if it is worth your little amount of money to go thru this. Not to be a jerk but I am not begging.
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:01 PM
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16. It's a great idea to help |
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But I'm afraid an ad from us might just alienate more of their regular customers.
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:04 PM
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17. That is why I asked the paper first They like it. I thought I said that . |
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:38 PM
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Instead of an ad proclaiming DU's support, just an ad supporting freedom of speech and freedom of the press. How that's American and all.
Might make the locals think.
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:45 PM
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I think we should use the add to say something more substantive, and just mention DU near the bottom. Just my opinion. :)
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:20 PM
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18. I agree with Wryter2000 |
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A big, splashy ad from us would further antagonize the locals against the paper. Remember,that paper has to stay in business there in Crawford year after year without our support. The absolute best idea is for everyone to order a subscription, but the $45 is rather prohibitive, so why not take up a collection and see how many subscriptions we could get for the amount of money we collect. I have already subscribed, but would gladly kick in a few bucks so other people could have a subscription. I may be wrong, but I think an "in your face" ad would just hurt the newspaper in the long run.
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:34 PM
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This would be the nail in their coffin, proof to the locals that they are a commie rag. :(
There has to be another way.
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:43 PM
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22. This is why I have posted this and asked the paper and Skinner. |
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I still think that people there really like their paper and that they will return to it. This is just the start of a plan, so I thank all opinions.
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:45 PM
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23. I really like the idea of a "neutral" ad simply supporting |
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free speech--awfully hard even for Repugs to argue with that.
Here's the e-mail I got in response to my query:
"You can subscribe by calling 254-675-3336 and paying by credit card or you can mail payment to: The Lone Star Iconoclast P.O. Box 420 Crawford, TX 76638 We've also set up a paypal account: lonestariconoclast@yahoo.com The cost for one year is $45.00 and six months is $22.50. Be sure to include your name and mailing address. Thanks, Melanie Milbradt Marketing Director"
I donated $45, indicating that they can do what they think is best with it--donate a subscription (and yes, it's weekly) to a school/other institution, whatever.
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:53 PM
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27. My reply from the was, I don't see a problem with you running an ad |
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like that and a run down of cost. Now I'm looking into what is best and what Du and Kerry camp think.
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:54 PM
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28. Yeah, that's the idea I like too |
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I posted it upthread, an ad about freedom of speech, freedom of the press.
That, or we can have our own little fundraiser for the paper, either way they get the money.
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Sun Oct-03-04 09:05 PM
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33. I just emailed them and told them I wanted to subscribe for a year |
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but wanted the paper to go to someone in Crawford who maybe can't afford a subscription. Lord knows the L.A. Times overwhelms me as it is - I just finished trying to read the Sunday edition which is probably larger than a year's worth of Crawford's paper.
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:46 PM
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25. diehard: do you live in Crawford, TX? |
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Sun Oct-03-04 04:52 PM
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26. No I'm still alive, I'd kill myself if I lived anywhere near there. Sorry |
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Sun Oct-03-04 07:59 PM
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31. did you see Skinner's response in Ask the Administrators? |
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Sun Oct-03-04 09:14 PM
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34. Think of the long term objectives..... |
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We need to be somewhat neutral. The long term objective here is to "supplement" their revenue until the local advertisers realize they can't shutter an independent paper just because they disagree with their editorial policy.
At some point those that "pulled" their support will return, but not if we inadvertently end up making the paper appear to be left leaning. Remember this is Crawford, Tx (bush or not... its still Texas) and for them to survive they can't piss off all the locals.
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