Edwards vs. Cheney = David vs. Goliath

[Lakerstan]

We need to play this angle up to the press and everyone else. Young David out to slay the vicious giant Goliath. Lowers expectations for Edwards and paints Cheney as the monster he is.

Spread the word!

:bounce:

[Brotherjohn]

1. Not to raise expectations or anything...

... but I think Edwards is going to wipe the table with Cheney.

Cheney is certainly much smarter and quicker on his feet than Bush. But Edwards is every bit as smart, MUCH more likeable, and is used to dealing with guys like Cheney on the stand as a trial lawyer fighting big business.

Plus, in the campaign, he has shown to be the pit bull (as Veep candidates often are). He's not going to be as "nice" as Kerry. He's going to lay into Cheney at every misrepresentation of the truth. And Cheney has maybe even a bigger problem with the truth than Bush.

Edwards is going to leave him looking like the mean old man he is.

[TexasSissy]

2. Sorry. I disagree. I am prepared for a draw or a Cheney win.

Cheney is an expert debater. He's calm, cool, in command of the facts, is quick on his duff with comebacks. He has years of experience behind him, and is ruthless, while still coming off as trying to be "nice."

Edwards, on the other hand, is not a bull dog or a negative person. He is cordial, polite, and "nice." Joe Lieberman was nice. Cheney ate him up at their debate. Also, Edwards is just not as experienced in foreign policy or economics as Cheney is. Yes, Edwards great at connecting and persuading, but then so is Cheney. So I think the one with more experience debating and the one with a better handle on the facts will win. That's Cheney.

I don't think Edwards will flop. I think he'll do all right. But Cheney will come out ahead. Just what I think. I also think the VP debate doesn't matter much.

[MsTryska]

5. Edwards is no Lieberman. nt.

nt

[ender]

3. he's not going to give him joementum, either...

edwards wont let cheney play an old, kindly rich grandfather figure, either...

[DU9598]

4. Truth

I agree with you 100%. The thing that will help Edwards in his debate is that Cheney is a liar. If there is one thing a trial lawyer knows how to do, it is to present a compelling case that the opponent is a liar. I look for Cheney to be exposed to the people for the liar he is - much like Bu*h was exposed for the dunce that he is. Corporate media cannot shield their beloved administration to the heat of a debate.

[babylonsister]

6. I've heard this comparison:

Hannibal Lechter vs. Mr. Rogers

[Dulcinea]

8. I like this one:

George Bailey vs. Mr. Potter.

[ProfessorPlum]

7. The key will be

how Edwards responds to Cheney's lies.

If he gets visibly or audibly upset by the lies in any way, we've seen that is a negative.

And we know Cheney is a congenital liar. He does it as easily as breathing.

So Edwards has to find a way to point out the lies in a personable way.

Another problem with debating an out-and-out liar is that we will have to rely on the whore press to verify it when Edwards points out a lie. And they won't do that.

It could be tough. We'll see.

[Brotherjohn]

9. I don't know about that. The press has made A LOT of Kerry's slam...

... at Bush countering that "Iraq didn't attack us. Al Qaeda did!"

And that was just continued "misleading" by Bush. He was called on it loudly in the debate and it's probably one of the main reasons he lost.

Cheney's lies are even more bald-faced. The press doesn't have to check Cheney's facts and call him on his lies.

That's Edwards' job; that's why it's a debate. He'll do it, and it will be what the main post-debate sound-bites consist of.

I'll go even further... I'm betting that Edwards has already catalogued and countered numerous previous Cheney bald-faced lies, and he's going to pull them out during the debate when the subjects come up. little gems such as "We believe that Iraq has in fact reconsituted nuclear weapons", "Frankly, we feel Mr. El Baradei is wrong" (about the uranium forgeries in March 2003), and numerous very recent claims that Iraq was linked to 9-11. Edwards has called Cheney on these types of lies recently in the campaign, and this is his big chance to call Cheney on them in front of the nation, when everyone's watching. He isn't going to let these lies slide.

Just watch.

[AlCzervik]

10. Good Vs. Evil

Everyone i know is looking forward to this debate.

[venus]

11. Elizabeth Edwards said in an interview

that this type of debate was new to her husband and that he was preparing by going around the country talking to the people. That's very nice, but Edwards needs to really have boned up on foreign policy, and that's his weakness. He's adept at domestic issues but Cheney is very convincing. The pressure is on. It's one thing to tout Edward's experience as a trial lawyer but I fear his lack of knowledge in foreign policy will show. Kerry blew Edwards away during the primaries IMO. Concentrate, concentrate; that is the modus operandi for Edwards.