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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:36 PM
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Latest Newsweek poll: Clark past his peak?
Deans lead increases

Newsweek Poll
Jan. 8 - 9
(Previous poll, 12/18 - 19)

Dean: 24 (26)
Clark: 12 (15)
Gephardt: 12 (5)
Kerry: 11 (6)
Lieberman: 7 (7)
Sharpton: 5 (7)
Moseley Braun: 4 (1)
Edwards: 3 (5)
Kucinich: 3 (1)

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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:37 PM
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1. Dupe
and no Clark is not past his "peak", because he hasn't peaked yet.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:43 AM
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14. Shhhhhh they don't know that yet...Don't tell 'em n/t
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:46 AM
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15. he has peaked
and when his handlers allow him to debate again he's gonna tank
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:55 AM
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18. very nice spin
You're good. Pugnacious, but good.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:38 PM
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2. Nope.
A second place finish in NH makes this a two person race. A first place finish would give Clark the nomination, imo.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:41 PM
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3. Does it make a difference how the 2nd place happens?
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 05:42 PM by JVS
If Clark wins 2nd place with 14% because Kerry drops like a stone is that still an achievement?
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 05:43 PM
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4. I am guessing it is negligible.
The Clark campaign has enough money to declare a second place finish a victory. I'm not certain how finishing 17% or 20% creates a change in the coverage.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:55 PM
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6. Yes it does. If Clark comes in 2nd with 5% it's significant..
because three of Clark's competitors are from neighboring states. MA and VT border NH. There is one state, MA between CT and NH.
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Marian Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:08 PM
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5. Polls are interesting, but
to be fair, we have to note from where they come; how big the sample was etc.

At this point, even if a given poll was in fact accurate (one I've yet to find!); there is just too much left to happen once there are actual primaries to make predictions now, IMHO.

This is going to go back and forth and the mainstream media is going to magnify everything!

I hope everyone watches tomorrow's debates.

:hi:
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:59 PM
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7. The real lesson of 2004
Never claim someone is imploding or peaking.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:14 PM
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8. ***DING DING DING DING DING******DING DING DING DING DING DING***
aND THE wINNAH IS ....LUMINOUS OX!!!

Things change far too quickly...
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:16 PM
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9. I agree, basically.
The implodings are a bit easier to spot, however.
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mikewriter Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:56 PM
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10. Clark has not peaked
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 10:56 PM by mikewriter
It'll be him or Dean down the stretch
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:00 PM
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11. I think not....my bet is that by Feb. this will a 2 man race
Between Clark and Dean.

They are, simply put, the two most effective candidates.

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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:05 PM
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12. Look at Gephardt.
Gephardt's support has more than doubled.

If Dean has a big lead on a rugby scrum well beneath him, nobody really gains momentum but Dean, though
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:41 AM
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13. kick
eom.
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:50 AM
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16. If Clark "peaked" what do you call Dean's falling #'s
Try a new tact, this one isn't working.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:54 AM
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17. The sampling size of this survey was less than 400. For a national poll...
That's a joke. From a universe of 40 million Democrats you're not going to get a 5% margin of error (as they claim) from a survey of 400 people. Sorry, but they've clearly done a rush job on this survey. As with the ARG poll in New Hampshire, I'm sure we'd find some sampling or screening flaw in this survey.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:58 AM
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19. I don't think Clark has peaked
and I don't think Dean has Tanked.

IT'S JUST A POLL!

No one's Jumping a shark just yet.

Wait for an actual vote...
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