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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:22 PM
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'Global test' - maybe it's just because I'm a programmer
but I heard JK list off a whole range of constituencies that would have to be considered, then a reference to a 'global test' as a test that would consider issues from the highest scoping level - 'global' as opposed to 'local'.

It didn't even occur to me until I read all the hullabaloo from the right that the term global might refer to any kind of 'international' test.

Oh well, just another nuanced perspective, I guess.

Richard Ray - Jackson Hole, WY
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:26 PM
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1. Kerry is many things ....
I doubt Programmer Analyst is one of them ....

I thought he should have used "Test for International Consensus" or "Justification Test" or 'Smell Test' or something like that .... The programming reference is simply too esoteric to strike a chord outside of a small group of puter geeks ...
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:34 PM
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5. Totally agree
I can't imagine having a programmer as president - of course, I can't imagine asking the president to write code, either - especially the guy currently occupying the office!!

Richard Ray - Jackson Hole, WY
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:09 AM
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13. Can you imagine Bush trying to write code???
For some reason I find the thought hilarious. I can hardly imagine him typing.

Here's Bush with one finger trying to type a capital letter "I"



k... DOH!

8... DOH! ...well at least it's a capital 8!

i... DOH!

i... DOH!

i... DOH!

Shit! This must be one of those Clinton keyboards!
Condi, come here! I need you to type something!
And bring me a new keyboard. This one is broken...



I'll bet if Kerry was faced with some freakish national emergency where he had to code Perl we could simply hand him the Camel Book and he'd save our butts. Bush would simply sit there like he did in that classroom on 9/11.


What's the camel do? I don't have a camel.
I hate computers. What is all this?
They spelled Perl wrong. It's Purril. Doh.
Computer programmers are girly boys.
I'll bet my Arab friends can get me a camel.
Can camels type? I better call Condi too.


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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:50 PM
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8. How about just having a good vocabulary?
Even aside from computer jargon... global means "all inclusive/total" roughly as much as it means "around-the-world global." (2nd and 3rd definitions)

Considering that there are probably people in the world arguing about which of those two is right, it's funny that neither of those is the first definition. "Global" is, above all, an adjective meaning spherical
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:28 PM
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2. It took me a minute, too.
Same thing -- I'm a programmer, and I heard all of those "if statements" in my head! I thought I was the only one....:)
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:29 PM
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3. Before he got around to saying "global"
I thought for sure he would say "universal".

I think ultimately what he meant was the U.S. should always do "What Is Right".

We know What Is Right most of the time, but when we reflect that off the world community and they tell us that what we are doing is not What Is Right, that we should look at it again.


My problem from Day 1 with * is that he has always had tunnel vision. He convinces himself on a course of action, and nothing can dissuade him. He calls it steadfastness, but I call it closed-mindedness. When someone disagrees with him, he doesn't see it as someone making a suggestion, he sees it as someone accusing him of being wrong and he immediately digs in deeper.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:32 PM
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4. the WHOLE SENTENCE...shows his intent is giving US people a head's up
not the whole world. IN that context he talked about a global test in the parlance of....a generally accepted set of guiding rules. One area that is globally expected. Namely: if you preemptively invade a country that doesn't seem to outwardly present a real threat, you better have your ducks in a row. You better be able to say that you have this information A,B,C that CLEARLY tells us the threat is there and we must act.

Above all, you must be able to have a morally justifiable position of being able to tell your citizens whose relative laid down their life in battle that it was a last resort and it was truly necessary.

So eat THAT you muthaf*ckin' freeps and neocons alike. The sad part is these animals KNEW what Kerry meant and will purposefully mispreprent the words.

Good news: IT'S ALL THEY GOT! BUWAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAA!!!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:29 PM
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6. Okay, who knows what MUMPS stands for, and what is its current
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 07:30 PM by zbdent
incarnation?

(edit corrected proper use of "its" in subject)
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:50 AM
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11. Proto OODBMS out of health care, strong text processing
and multidimensional data handling, old fashioned syntax.

M(assachusetts General Hospital) U(tility) (M)ulti-(P)rogramming (S)ystem. Don't know the current version.

I looked into it when I was writing a package to interface between various packages in hospital settings that support HL7.

Richard Ray - Jackson Hole, WY

(Yes, I had to look it up, I forgot the (M)ulti term to get the second 'M' in the name :-)
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:25 AM
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12. Way to go!
and now, it's InterSystems Cache.

Although you had a geekier description of it than I ever would be able to muster up.

I had to inform my wife that she already knew the "new programming language" that the VA was training newcomer programmers in.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:34 PM
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7. As in "global variable"
Having a modestly sophisticated vocabulary is a criminal offence,apparently.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:01 PM
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9. Kerry did say that pre-emptive war" should only be waged
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 08:01 PM by Eric J in MN
if the need can be proven to Americans and "you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons."

Kerry wasn't saying that if we're attacked, we can only strike back if it passes a global test, but that "pre-emptive war" needs to pass a global test of legitimacy.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:05 PM
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10. Cambridge Dictionary says:
Definition

global (SITUATION)
adjective

considering or relating to all parts of a situation or subject:
This report gives a global picture of the company's finances.


globally
adverb
"We need to look at this issue globally."


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