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Tue Oct-05-04 09:44 AM
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Bush "internals" must be tanking. He is giving a "significant speech" |
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(just announced today) on the war on terrorism AND the economy. First of all, does that mean his other speeches are "insignificant"? And secondly - when he is giving speeches every day - why the need to point to this one speech and why on two different topics? Obviously Rove doesn't think Bush did very well in the first debate and also doesn't think he is going to do well in the next one so he is trying to cover for the first debate and preempt the bad impression from the second debate with a scripted positive image of the Shrub that people will remember. Pathetic.
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:45 AM
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1. you are so cynical! LOL |
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:46 AM
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Is he going to read to us from My Pet Goat?
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:46 AM
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The guy wants to repair what happened to him in the debates
Will Kerry be given equal time?
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:47 AM
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4. I haven't heard a significant speech |
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come out of that man's mouth in four years. It's a little late now.
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:47 AM
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5. They are playing a little game with the Edwards/Cheney debate. |
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Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 09:49 AM by w4rma
They are trying to overshadow or dampen the coverage of that debate, imho. I think they had this planned before the 1st debate.
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:52 AM
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11. when is this supposed to occur and where is it announced |
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Tue Oct-05-04 10:05 AM
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15. Other thread here. It is a Moonie Times story but I heard it on NPR also. |
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:48 AM
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6. If he gave a coherent speech that would be "Significant". (n/t) |
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:49 AM
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7. So he's already pre-spinning the NEXT debate he's gonna fuck up??? |
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Pathetic. He's going to try to get all his "economy" talking points in, on this speech, so if he goes all Stuttering George again, at least the talking points will be out there.
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:49 AM
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8. A campaign speech, or are we paying for it? |
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It's not gonna help, anyway.
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:52 AM
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12. Not a campaign speech. We're paying. |
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:52 AM
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9. Heh. Another thread is calling it the "Mulligan" speech. It would |
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be great if this term were picked up by the late night crowd. Anybody have contacts for Letterman and Leno? "Mulligan" thread here.... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=971238&mesg_id=971238
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Tue Oct-05-04 11:40 AM
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25. Reminds of the Seinfeld episode |
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when George thought up the "jerk store" rebuttal to a co-worker's insult and plotted a scheme to be able to use it. Only * can schedule his rebuttal and not say it to JK's face.
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:52 AM
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10. you can train a monkey to give a speech |
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Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 09:53 AM by LSK
The public already has learned that he cant think for himself. Bush giving pre-written speeches do nothing to change this.
If Rove was smart, he'd make Bush do a press conference everyday. Thats the only way he can possibly change that perception. Not that theres any chance of Bush doing well thou...
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:54 AM
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13. Debate #1 gave us another insight..... |
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The insight is that "major/significant speeches" are NOT listened to. We've seen them before. We have pulled our hair out when Kerry gave his major speeches on different issues and the polls didn't move and people still said "I don't know where he stands on X or Y". It's not because he didn't have anything great to say, it's because the people don't listen to speeches. BUT once we put the two boys on stage and they could see and hear them, they realized Kerry had a hell of a lot to say and that Giggles the President had squat to say and less than squat for brains. Bush might as well be giving a speech to his sock drawer. It won't save him now. And, neither are the next two debates where the paranoid one with added pressure on his back is going to politically die in public.
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Tue Oct-05-04 09:58 AM
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Basically, the majority of the population gets their news from primetime network new shows like 20/20, 60 minutes or the evening news where only a few soundbites of a speech are given. Thats why the debates are so devastating to Bush because there wasnt hardly anything else on TV that night. It was on all 3 networks and thats what a large bulk of the population watches. And that was also the 1st time besides the conventions that most Americans saw the candidates in depth.
Giving speeches in the middle of the day is not a way to get through to the population.
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Tue Oct-05-04 10:28 AM
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16. Everytime I look in my sock drawer, I'll think of you. |
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Tue Oct-05-04 11:13 AM
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21. Giggles the President... |
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Good one. Welcome to DU.
And you're right, no one does listen to the brain-rot that dribbles from *'s mouth, unfortunately, nor do they listen to Kerry when he attempts to articulate his positions.
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Tue Oct-05-04 06:15 PM
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I like your thinking - thanks for the perspective!
:hi:
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Tue Oct-05-04 10:35 AM
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17. No he's giving a Mulligan Speech! |
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Now that he and his speechwriting staff have had most of a week to think up stinging rejoinders that Bush should have used, they're going to trot them out all at once - along with the usual Goo-goo Gah-gah Freedom Phrases he's been burping up for three years.
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Tue Oct-05-04 10:42 AM
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18. Is there any evidence that any major network will cover this speech? |
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I could care less what he gives to cable news. Those votes are in the bag anyway. But if ABC, NBC, or CBS give any airtime at all to this speech, well that's bullshit and I want Kerry to be given the same amount of time. This isn't State of the Union, it's nothing more than a campaign speech and it should be treated like all the others: it shouldn't be covered.
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Tue Oct-05-04 10:44 AM
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19. This could also be.... |
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This could also be the Bush camp laying the ground work to cancel the remaining debates.
They must know that whatever poopyhead is going to say in this speech will be fair game for Friday's debate. If bush seriously thinks this speech will give him a chance to make his points without being challenged by Kerry, he is obviously wrong.
I may end up completely wrong about this, but after the first debate, I cannot see Bush participating in another one. there is nothing for him to gain, and everything for him to loose. Seriously, Bush is not going to out debate Kerry - there is just too big of an intelectual gap between the two.
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Tue Oct-05-04 10:55 AM
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20. Unless he's announcing the "October Surprise" I see no purpose |
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Instead of giving another fresh coat of paint to Bush's tired mantras and doing another primitive dance before the American pubic, and also giving Kerry something more to pick apart ahead of the debate, Bush should be practicing 16 hours a day to respond to a variety of questions, in depth, with facts at his fingertips. Of course the latter is something that is far beyond his capacity as Bush is a mere politician, not a Chief Executive.
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Tue Oct-05-04 11:39 AM
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24. Good thinking. Maybe he will announce they have discovered OBL's |
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location and will be capturing him any day now.
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Tue Oct-05-04 11:27 AM
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22. Isn't this an invitation only event... Most Americans not allowed |
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He wants to surround himself with only republicans so he can get that warm and fuzzy feeling that people like him. What a uniter he is. If he was the pResident of all the people he would allow all the people to attend.
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Tue Oct-05-04 11:34 AM
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23. And they blatently say it is a response to the debate, |
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Bush, it was a debate, you got to respond DURING the debate.
If Bush gets to keep debating the debate, Kerry needs to get equal time.
I think the real problem here is that the Bush team just cant handle the fact that they are wrong.
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Tue Oct-05-04 11:43 AM
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26. He is about to announce the capture of Osama |
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They need to play a trump card as he is in a nose dive.
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Tue Oct-05-04 11:44 AM
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27. Be Fair Now...He does need the extra time... |
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...to digest JFK's well-thought out and well-presented facts...I really thought he would need about a week and a half to be able to come up with some spin to try and undo the damage he did to himself. I don't want to get too overconfident, but at this point all Kerry has to do is show up and * will self-destruct...in fact, I would argue he already is. I am NOT getting complacent, though...and remember, I believe in MN we can register voters up to and including the election day!!
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Tue Oct-05-04 06:10 PM
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Tue Oct-05-04 11:46 AM
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28. MEDIA BLAST -LizW's "Bush's Mulligan speech" set for tomorrow-COME ON! |
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Tue Oct-05-04 06:13 PM
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30. He can use the teleprompter and his ear piece during his |
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"signifcant speech" but he cannot use these during the debate, hummmm, I wonder what difference this will make??? <dripping with sarcasm and contempt>
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Tue Oct-05-04 06:13 PM
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31. the more he talks, the deeper he digs himself. nt |
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