**** HIT THESE POLLS AFTER THE DEBATE... AND FIND MORE POLLS! ****

[Skinner]

WE HAVE OPENED A NEW DISCUSSION THREAD FOR THIS TOPIC. The list of polls has beem moved here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=984782&mesg_id=984782

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO VOTE!!!

[movonne]

1. Why are they to big to de freep??? We did well last time, we should

do good this time...

[rocktivity]

21. I've been whining about this all day, in case you haven't noticed

What we did after the Debate 1 was great--historic, even! But the freepers will be lying in wait for us for now on. That means have to redouble our efforts after each of the remaining debates, so be ready!!!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Carla in Ca]

64. all the 'survey' polls are the same, 81 to 18 Edwards

[SoCalDemocrat]

120. Fight back

Fight back against the Republican spin machine. Tell the media how John Edwards won the debate tonight.


We're two for two. Tonight, in Cleveland, John Edwards showed real strength and conviction -- he was in command of the facts and in control of the debate and a powerful advocate for John Kerry. The American people saw John Edwards as somebody who is ready, if neccessary, to be president of the United States.

Dick Cheney is totally out of touch with reality in Iraq and totally out of touch with the struggles of the middle class. This is nothing new to a man with a lifetime record of protecting the powerful and well-connected. He came across as smug, arrogant, mean and defensive -- but his trademark distortions and scare tactics didn't work. John Edwards refused to let him play the politics of fear and forced Dick Cheney to confront his administration's record of failure.

Americans are tired of growls and scowls from our leaders, and John Edwards and John Kerry offer America hope and optimism.

The Bush-Cheney campaign is already trying to spin the debate. I am here in Cleveland, right now, working to make sure that doesn't happen. Tonight my job is going to be a lot easier than my Republican counterparts for three reasons. First, John Edwards is our candidate for vice president, second Dick Cheney is theirs, and third I know that you are going to join me in this critical fight.

Here is what you can do:

1) Vote in online polls

The Bush-Cheney campaign has asked their supporters to vote in online polls. Don't let them distort the polls like they distort their record.
CNN
http://www.cnn.com

MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com

ABC News
http://www.abcnews.com

CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com

Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com

Also check you local newspaper and TV station's websites for online polls.

2) Call into talk radio

http://volunteer.johnkerry.com/speakout
3) Write local newspapers

http://volunteer.johnkerry.com/speakout

[xg0blin]

2. Can this be stickied or something(nt)

It's VERY important that we get these poll numbers going. The freeps are going to be doing all they can to make it look like america thinks Cheney won.

[Skinner]

6. It is stickied.

And I just put a big yellow box on the top of every page.

[Carla in Ca]

199. Skinner, this thread got a kudos from Dailykos tonight.

n/t

[Skinner]

221. Great.

Got a link for that? I'd like to see it.

[neoteric lefty]

3. Let your voice be heard... it will take like 5-10 minutes

[sybylla]

114. unless you're on dial-up

MSRNC takes 5 minutes to load all by its fat-ass self. I think I'll open a bunch, then go watch Jon Stewart while they load.

[mhr]

4. Thanks - This Makes The Task Much Easier

Always afraid I will forget one.

[Bucky]

150. This is an awesome resource, Skinner. Good on ya!

I'm glad to able to help with this scientifically pointless moral booster. Sure these online polls are just high tech pep rallies... but if a poll's results discourage even one Freeper from leaving mom's basement on election day, it'll be worth it.

[theorist]

5. Hahahaha! Freepers are dumbasses, and we'll prove it again tonight.

:evilgrin:

(I guess you can send me a private message, if you don't understand.)

[Doosh]

7. and don't forget

after taking the poll, open up your internet properties and clear cookies, so you can vote again.

very impressive list

[gospelized]

8. or

just permanently block cookies from the page.

[Kierkegaard]

12. Most polls are not cookied.

They are stamped by IP when they are inserted to prevent just what you are inferring. Better to hit as many as possible rather than trying to bang on one for any length of time.

[nofurylike]

19. PLEASE vote once each poll, only once. we need a fair count for our use.

and i've been writing media quoting freepers saying that all the time ("clear cookies and vote often") and how we actually want the true count.

make a liar out of me, sigh.

some polls you are 'permitted' to (they expect you will) vote again but a day later. for tonight, just once, please?



keep on, all!!

i will too!!

have a most excellent debate-watch
and fair-witnessing!!


peace!!

[Zhade]

20. Thank you for saying this. It bothers me that some think it's okay to lie.

Voting multiple times in a poll is basically cheating, and is dishonest.

When it's a Yahoo news story that needs to be seen, that's one thing. This is entirely different. If these polls are to mean something, they need to be honest.

(Yes, I know Freepers will cheat. Duh. They're scum, what do you expect? But I don't want to be down on their level.)

[nofurylike]

23. thank you, Zhade! have an excellent watch! n/t

[bushisanidiot]

32. That's what the freepers do and it's total bullshit.

we are better than them and we outnumber them. there is no need to stoop to their level.

[doni_georgia]

9. Media for Democracy

Register for tonight's debate at:

http://www.mediachannel.org/debate2004/register/

Go ahead and register now for tonight and remaining two presidential debates.

[LibertyorDeath]

10. Thanks

[Liberalboy]

27. I love your Green Day Icon!!!!!

Very cool!

[wiley]

33. Just Bought the new CD

And Michael Moore's and also Butler's CDs.

Help Wes Clark turn Arkansas into a blue state!

:hi:

[MockSwede]

34. F 911

Watching in now; not the VP debate run-up BS.

[LibertyorDeath]

54. Kick

[benito]

11. Skinner

That is one hell of a list. I'm going to hit EVERY one of these polls! And thanks for putting *three* Louisiana hits in there. This site- http://newslink.org/latele.html has all of the LA TV stations, but some of these may not have a poll on them. I'll check and add after the debate!

[madmax]

13. Skinner, et.al. You guys are awesome.

Thanks for helping us voice our opinion. The resources you provide are much appreciated. Love you guys. :hug:

[Kierkegaard]

14. Skinner: might I suggest maybe to send the list to members

via email so it doesn't become a convenient tool for freepers' use? It would be a shame to have them find and distribute this list to their fellow cave dwellers. In numbers, they could effectively marginalize our efforts...

Just a thought.

[Misunderestimator]

31. I wouldn't worry about that.... there are far fewer of them from what I've

seen... worked nicely last time after all.

[Kierkegaard]

220. Punk b*tches....

This from flea repubic...

"You beat me to it. I was just getting ready to post it. One of the dummies suggested they use email so WE wouldn't get the list. Ha ha. We got it."

*sigh*

[LoZoccolo]

15. Chicago Tribune

http://www.chicagotribune.com (reg required)

There's a poll on there now about the draft.

[Gabi Hayes]

43. where? can't find it....... that's my paper, btw

go here for registration to almost ANY online place

bugmenot.com

[patricia92243]

16. WAIT til the debate has actually taken place before you say Edwards won.

Some news agencies said they got e-mails BEFORE the pres debate saying Kerry had won.



This makes us look foolish.

[Jack_Dawson]

17. HARDBALL has its own poll - don't forget!

[MoonRiver]

18. I'll be a busy little hamster,

but it will be my absolute PLEASURE to DU every one of these polls! :kick:

[marlakay]

22. A lot of polls I guess I'd better save an hour for it! n/t

[nofurylike]

24. thank you for all this work, Skinner and all!

you make our work SOOOOOO much easier and more effective!!

look, last week. AWESOME.


have a most excellent watch!

thank you for ALL you do!



peace!

[umtalal]

25. Questio: How late can we do this?

I will e in a meeting during the debate and for three hours later.

[zaj]

28. All night and into the next day...

... it helps to do it right away, but there will be plenty of time to vote.

[umtalal]

29. I just forwaded this to a friend. she will do it also.

[NJCher]

26. i copied and pasted the list

Just in case the server here is slow.


Cher

[Misunderestimator]

30. Florida area newspapers:

http://www.sptimes.com/
http://www.tampatrib.com/
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

Not sure if there will be polls, so I will repost later, if there are.

[wtmusic]

59. Orlando Sentinel 96.5% EDWARDS!!!

:thumbsup:

[LynneSin]

35. Somewhere in Freeperville they have this thread linked

:eyes:

[Skinner]

36. Yeah, I know.

They copied the whole thing. We kinda thought they might do that. Lazy fools.

[CitySky]

82. then freep'rs must all have dial-up

'cause JE is winning everywhere right now, even Fox. ;)

[Ellen Forradalom]

168. Or, perhaps there are just more people who thought Edwards won!

A distinct possibility!

[Kurovski]

182. Terry McAuliffe sent out a list, too

The letter encouraged letter writing, etc.

It's called getting organized (at long last!). But the plain fact is most Americans are sick of Cheney and Bush's crap. And, yes, I meAN MOST. pEOPLE are just stating a fact: Kerry/ Edwards are cleaning up at the debates.

Clinton must be giving some damn good advice from that hospital bed of his. May God bless the Big Dog.

[Hanover_Fist]

37. Excellent...........

Defreep at will..................

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

38. Kick

:kick:

[Born Free]

39. WHTM Harrisburg Pa

Cheney 64 Edwards 36

http://www.whtm.com

[mconvente]

41. 54 - 46 cheney

keep it going! kick

[Mojambo]

61. 60-40 Edwards now n/t

[crispini]

83. edwards 62 cheney 38

[Hog lover]

105. Edwards 58 - Cheney 42 n/t

[quaoar]

131. Done

Who Won Tonight's Debate?

Vice President Cheney
38 %
Senator Edwards
62 %

Total: 30644 votes

[drfemoe]

203. that one turned

around . JE 71% Scowl 27% yeeheww . Must be a TREND!!

[txindy]

40. Thanks, again! You're the best!

On my way once the debate is done.

[BamaLefty]

42. 55%-45% Edwards in Harrisburg, PA

This is a crucial poll, it is in a battleground state and will play on tonights news I am sure. GO VOTE!

http://www.whtm.com/

[Gabi Hayes]

45. 58 for Edwards...just voted!

[stubertmcfly]

46. bump

59/41 edwards now

[KDLarsen]

49. Looks like it's been DU'ed..

Vice President Cheney 38 %
Senator Edwards 63 %

Total: 864 votes

[BamaLefty]

44. Now it is Edwards 58%-42% in PA

You can vote more than once!!!! GO vote 4 Edwards!!!

http://www.whtm.com/

In Alabama it is Edwards 63%-36%, go VOTE:

http://www.waka.com

:kick:

[BamaLefty]

47. Edwards 61-39 in Pennsylavnia!

http://www.whtm.com

http://www.waka.com

[ailsagirl]

53. MSNBC

Go here for MSNBC's poll

VOTE

[Sparkle]

87. here's another poll

http://www.click2houston.com/index.html

[Fear]

94. HTTP://WWW.WAKA.COM/ -> VOTE!!!!!

http://www.waka.com

[acmavm]

122. I started voting right after 10:00 p.m. CST. Almost without exception,

all the polls have had Edwards the winner by a large margin. Even the PBS survey-type poll (you had to answer several questions and you had choices of levels of satisfaction with the candidates performance).

[Lithos]

48. MSNBC poll is up

n/t

[Pikku]

50. Here's one

http://elpasotimes.com/

Look for the "rate the candidates" link. On line now!

[stubertmcfly]

51. live

http://www.thewgalchannel.com/index.html

[mconvente]

52. /YES

msnbc: 78% edwards, 22% cheney over 14000 votes!

[Lithos]

55. WKRC Cincinatti is up

Vice President Cheney: 57.1%
Senator Edwards: 42.9%

[stubertmcfly]

56. live

http://www.wftv.com/index.html

[Lithos]

57. CNN is up

No votes showing.

[acmavm]

63. Yeah, I know, it still showed 0 after I voted.

.

[Lithos]

67. It updates every ten minutes or so

L-

[Solar]

58. yahoo poll

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s&u=/static/poll_debate/static

[LenaLush]

60. CNN's Poll is up

[texastoast]

77. 82%-Edwards 14%-Cheney

Woo-hoo!!

[medeak]

85. cnn Edwards 79%

[LynneSin]

62. Is it me or do these stations all use the same poll?

New Orleans Channel: http://www.theneworleanschannel.com

NewsNet5 Cleveland: http://www.newsnet5.com

WESH2 Orlando: http://www.wesh.com/politics

WFTV9 Orlando: http://www.wftv.com

WGAL Harrisburg PA: http://www.thewgalchannel.com


I just did these 5 polls which were are identical pop up boxes that had Edwards ahead by 80% (which I have no issues with).

[MidwestTransplant]

69. A bunch do. It should say "National" poll at the bottom

[wtmusic]

71. Yes, and you can vote multiple times!

Ahh, democracy!

[henslee]

96. percentages are similar but total votes are diff.

[LynneSin]

65. Wilmington DE poll is up and Edwards is at 70%

I love my town!

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

86. Where's the link?

nt

[Delarage]

157. Link--Edwards at 90%+ Now!

The link in the list above works, but here it is again:

http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/

[stubertmcfly]

66. pbs poll live

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2004/debates/ballot_vp.html

[Maestro]

68. San Antonio Express Poll is up

click on mysanantonio link above.

[kokomo]

106. Corpus Christi poll is up.................

"http://www.caller.com/ccct/national_world_news/article/0,1641,CCCT_812_3231905,00.html"

Edwards in South Texas is 56% to Cheney's 41% in a city of 300,000 where 25% are military and the rest work in OIL refineries!!!

[drfemoe]

205. OMG

I can't stand it!! well, yes I can .. TEXAS is gonna go BLUE!!!!

[Lefta Dissenter]

70. http://www.foxnews.com/

faux is up

[BamaLefty]

78. Hahaha!

Dick Cheney (R)
18.22% (125 votes)

John Edwards (D)
81.78% (561 votes)

http://www.waka.com (IN ALABAMA NO LESS)

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[debatepro]

72. Ohio polls

Ohio
http://www.newsnet5.com/index.html# who won the db8
http://www.whiotv.com/index.html who won the db8
http://www.wtol.com/ middle
http://www.wkyc.com/ who won the db8 (been freeped)
http://www.wkef22.com/dayton_oh/ (bottom middle)'
http://www.wtov9.com/index.html (who wone the debate)

[Shoedogg]

104. NBC Columbus

http://www.nbc4i.com/index.html

[Gman]

73. My San Antonio.com is up at

http://www.mysanantonio.com/

[drfemoe]

207. 92% to 6%

in San Antonio!!! repeat above message, re: Texas = Blue ..

Nay sayers depart!

[Nobody]

74. Fox News is online now

Edwards: 17%

Cheney: 13%

Didn't watch 3%

None of the above: 67%

Say what????????

[Out the Parasites]

90. I can't find the damn poll on Fox??? - Never mind..found it

Right hand side, midle page, above greta's head


Maybe because it's so awful to be there in the first place. Where is it so I and other's don't have to spend too much time there. Thanks

[moobu2]

163. whoa @ Fox -Edwards 53% -Cheney 46% ---11,7720 votes between em-so far

a. Vice President Cheney (46%)
54,921


b. Senator Edwards (53%)
62,799

[Forge]

75. WSOCTV.COM Charlotte

http://www.wsoctv.com/index.html

[snoochie]

76. CBS News Poll is Online

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/politics/main641817.shtml

[quaoar]

134. Done

Who won the vice presidential debate?


Dick Cheney:
19.99%
John Edwards:
78.31%
Neither man. It was a draw:
1.70%

[archineas]

79. PLEASE UNFREEP!!!

http://www.wkyc.com

from a clevelander!

[TwoHandedLayup]

80. CBS is up

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/politics/main641817.shtml

[BamaLefty]

89. Fox Results

a. Vice President Cheney (42%)
6,344


b. Senator Edwards (56%)
8,378


c. I did not watch (1%)
68


d. None of the above (1%)

[acmavm]

125. Unfreep? 10:47 p.m. CST:

WKYC POLL
Q. Who won the Vice Presidential debate?

Latest Poll Results:

Dick Cheney 29.5%
John Edwards 70.5%

Click to Close

[Davion]

81. Don't forget the Denver Post

Click on the thumb on the right side of the page:

http://www.denverpost.com/

[OKNancy]

84. The Tulsa KOTV poll is open

PLEASE VOTE in this...it's the only one that I see Cheney ahead.
http://www.kotv.com/main/home/main.asp

[SudieJD]

91. PBS Poll

Please include:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2004/debates/ballot_vp.html

Sudie

[aggiedem]

92. HBO Real Time with Bill Maher Poll is up

http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/?ntrack_para1=leftnav_category0_show3

[wtmusic]

101. It only allows those who chose Bush as Thursday's winner to vote

It's very impartial for a poll of Republicans....:eyes:

[drfemoe]

208. Tulsa

has no clue? Voted! Thanks.

[stubertmcfly]

88. bbc opinion survey up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3717918.stm

[miss_kitty]

158. where i see no survey on the bbc site

i must be blind

[mopinko]

93. very weird yahoo thing

ok, maybe this is nothing, but i thought it odd. i usually try to see what these things do when you try to vote twice. so on the yahoo poll, i hit back after voting. it showed my pick as cheney! i tried it a few times. (it didn't seem to be preventing multiple votes.) edwards is way ahead on the poll. but it is weird.

[stubertmcfly]

95. wsj poll up

http://discussions.wsj.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=wsjvoices&nav=messages&msg=3301&mod=home_inside_today_us

[acmavm]

130. Edwards 94% in WSJ poll

.

[BamaLefty]

97. Losing in Tulsa, OK... GO VOTE!

Who do you think won the Vice-Presidential debate?


· Dick Cheney
58.93%

· John Edwards
41.07%

http://www.kotv.com

[BamaLefty]

98. El Paso Results

Edwards winning in Texas!

Vice President Dick Cheney 5%

Sen. John Edwards 95% :kick:





http://www.kdbc.com/

[Pikku]

103. NY Daily News

http://www.nydailynews.com/

[kokomo]

111. Tulsa not taking any more votes. Cheney 64% to Edwards 36%

Tulsa, the "buckle of the Bible Belt" also went this way for Bush last week. Who provided their software in Tulsa, Diebold???

[sisenor]

119. TULSA one is RIGGED

Cheney is up and it says "currently unavailable."

[Lefty48197]

99. unfreep the Tulsa poll!

.

[2Design]

100. did bottom third of list - this takes a long time on dial up

but this way I can book mark and finish more later

[whatelseisnew]

102. St Pete (FL) Times- Weird Poll

http://www.sptimes.com/



Word War II
Does the vice-presidential debate interest you as much as the presidential debates?
Yes
Nosubmit

[Nana]

107. Channel One Poll! Please vote!

http://www.channelone.com/news/2004/10/06/ap_election_vp_debates/

[texastoast]

108. Poll closed at http://www.kotv.com/main/home/main.asp????

What's up? They've closed the poll already? It's not even 10:30 CDT. I know I hadn't voted there. Cheney-62% Edwards 37%. That's a pretty crappy trick.

[Sydnie]

109. Newsday good to go!

http://www.newsday.com

[drfemoe]

209. bump this one!!! n/t

[quaoar]

110. Edwards winning the Fox poll

Who won Tuesday night's vice presidential debate?

a. Vice President Cheney (41%)
16,445


b. Senator Edwards (57%)
22,621


c. I did not watch (1%)
228


d. None of the above (1%)
345


39,639 total votes

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

112. Rapid City Journal (in original list above) is up and running

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/

[quaoar]

140. Done

Who won Tuesday night’s vice presidential debate?
Dick Cheney 5.8%
John Edwards 92.8%
Don’t know 0.4%
Don’t care 1.0%

Total Votes: 706
Your Vote: John Edwards

[GingerSnaps]

113. Can someone please tell us where to look for the polls

Some of them I cant seem to find when I go to the page.

[eeyore]

115. Thank you for posting these!!!

I have done all of them so far, and will keep checking back.

-eeyore

[stubertmcfly]

116. rocky mountain news poll

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/poll/0,1299,DRMN_36_54498,00.html

[Sydnie]

117. Tampa Bay Online

http://www.tbo.com/ (middle page - poll : who won)

[dakota_democrat]

118. Take a look at this poll!!! (oh, and vote in it too)

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=kr-localnews&msg=2390.1&ctx=1

Insane results!!!

the dakota_democrat

[acmavm]

172. Whoa! That is a big lead. 11:39 p.m. CST

Who won the vice presidential debate?

Vice president Dick Cheney
410 votes (1%)

Senator John Edwards
31793 votes (99%)

32203 people have voted so far

Your vote was Senator John Edwards on 10/6/2004 12:39 am

[lakemonster11]

185. Good lord!

[Clinton Crusader]

121. AOL Poll needs help ---51-49 Oil Slick

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20041005104309990006

:kick:

[fryguy]

123. KOTV Tulsa?

Locked the poll with Cheney topping Edwards by a few points....guess someone needed to make sure he won one poll.....

[Paradise]

142. thanks, i thought it was just me. n/t

[Greylyn58]

124. Here's A Poll From My Local TV Station

Here's a poll people can hit here in Charlotte, NC

www.wsoctv.com/index.html

This is our local tv station.

[quaoar]

129. Done

[quaoar]

126. Please add this poll to the list

http://www.nbc13.com/index.html

[underseasurveyor]

127. POLL - The Iowa Channel...........

KCCI 8 The Iowa Channel

http://www.theiowachannel.com

[henslee]

128. FOX POLL FREEPED BIGTIME & FAST. Scroll to top and vote!!!!

[benito]

139. Got the lead!

Who won Tuesday night's vice presidential debate?

a. Vice President Cheney (49%)
43,072


b. Senator Edwards (50%)
43,851

Let's hurry before they close it like that other place did.

[henslee]

152. Isn't there something infantile about all this? Is this what it takes to

win elections this year? I can't wait till we win this and I can get back to real life.

[Ellen Forradalom]

170. It is a struggle to control perception

An evanescent yet powerful thing.

[Kadie]

132. KCRA Sacramento

http://www.thekcrachannel.com/index.html

[Supormom]

133. Twin Cities Poll- Kare 11 NBC

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=70169#

[quaoar]

136. Done

In your opinion, who won the only Vice Presidential debate?
Vice President Dick Cheney 52 Votes
Senator John Edwards 70 Votes

Total Votes Cast: 122

[acmavm]

135. 10:56 p.m. CST - El Paso Times

Rate the candidates' performance in the vice presidential debate.

Poll Expires: October 09, 2004 Total Votes: 171

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dick Cheney: Analysis of issues
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

73% - (125 Votes) Poor
18.7% - (32 Votes) Fair
4.6% - (8 Votes) Excellent
3.5% - (6 Votes) Good

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Edwards: Analysis of issues
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

77.1% - (132 Votes) Excellent
18.1% - (31 Votes) Good
3.5% - (6 Votes) Poor
1.1% - (2 Votes) Fair

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheney: Reasoning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

77.7% - (133 Votes) Poor
14.6% - (25 Votes) Fair
4% - (7 Votes) Excellent
3.5% - (6 Votes) Good

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edwards: Reasoning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

82.4% - (141 Votes) Excellent
12.8% - (22 Votes) Good
3.5% - (6 Votes) Poor
1.1% - (2 Votes) Fair

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheney: Organization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

61.4% - (105 Votes) Poor
22.8% - (39 Votes) Fair
11.1% - (19 Votes) Good
4.6% - (8 Votes) Excellent

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edwards: Organization
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

80.1% - (137 Votes) Excellent
13.4% - (23 Votes) Good
3.5% - (6 Votes) Poor
2.9% - (5 Votes) Fair

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheney: Refutation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

78.3% - (134 Votes) Poor
15.2% - (26 Votes) Fair
4.6% - (8 Votes) Excellent
1.7% - (3 Votes) Good

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Edwards: Refutation
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76% - (130 Votes) Excellent
18.7% - (32 Votes) Good
4% - (7 Votes) Poor
1.1% - (2 Votes) Fair

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Cheney: Delivery
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70.1% - (120 Votes) Poor
21.6% - (37 Votes) Fair
4% - (7 Votes) Good
4% - (7 Votes) Excellent

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Edwards: Delivery
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83.6% - (143 Votes) Excellent
11.1% - (19 Votes) Good
3.5% - (6 Votes) Poor
1.7% - (3 Votes) Fair

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Cheney: Use of evidence
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84.7% - (145 Votes) Poor
7.6% - (13 Votes) Fair
4% - (7 Votes) Excellent
3.5% - (6 Votes) Good

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Edwards: Use of evidence
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83% - (142 Votes) Excellent
11.1% - (19 Votes) Good
4% - (7 Votes) Poor
1.7% - (3 Votes) Fair

[jdj]

149. I am TRIPPING on that survey (above), they flipped it..

Did they know Cheney was going to do so bad that they came up with this idea of flipping the results for Cheney, so the results seem similar??? Unbelievable.

[lakemonster11]

187. I noticed that.

I'm reserving judgment as to whether they did it for partisan reasons. I really don't know, but it's definitely an odd decision.

[Paradise]

137. the only one i'm having a problem with is

KOTV Tulsa: http://www.kotv.com/main/home/main.asp (Right column "Hotbutton")

it shows results with no way to vote, and i've never gone to this site in my life, and didn't vote. :shrug:

[henslee]

154. Let Crashcart have Oklahoma. Go have a refreshing beverage!

[Paradise]

180. yeah! and thanks, think i'll do just that! :) n/t

[Supormom]

176. I was able to vote by adjusting the link as follows

http://www.kotv.com/main

[Paradise]

181. thanks much! :) n/t

[NVMojo]

192. that kotv has cheney ahead tonight

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

138. ABC30 Fresno is up (top of your list above)

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn

[Union Thug]

141. We are kicking ass.. keep it up!

Even at FAUX we are ahead 50/49!!!! Most online polls show a huge margin for Edwards!

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

143. Allentown PA Morning Call is up (on your list above)

http://www.mcall.com

[onefreespiritedchick]

144. FYI: The Freepers have all the links

And,instructing others to come here for additional ones.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236185/posts

[benito]

148. it does not look like it's helping their numbers

80/20's everywhere

[ProudToBeLiberal]

153. lol yah but, but it's all marked red

they keep on waiting for it to be green lol

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

156. I really don't think they...

understand how to use a computer on their own...

[Hubert Flottz]

145. WTRF West Virginia is up!

Edwards 93%

[noamnety]

146. miva.jacksonsun.com

http://miva.jacksonsun.com/miva/cgi-bin/miva?NEWS/news_storyV2.mv+link=200409236526634

scroll to bottom

[6th Borough]

147. Oh yeah, my paper is kicking ass!

Check the Sun-Sentinel...Cheney barely broke 5% on any of the 4 questions.

Go Broward County!

...err...and everyone else voting from around the country ;)

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

151. Montgomery, AL has Cheney as the default vote checked. Nice eh?

[serryjw]

159. FOX 10:35pm Mountain time

Who won Tuesday night's vice presidential debate?

a. Vice President Cheney (46%)
54,921


b. Senator Edwards (53%)
62,799


c. I did not watch (1%)
723


d. None of the above (0%)
711


119,154 total votes

[blue neen]

155. KDKA in Pittsburgh is up.

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

160. Souix Falls Argus Leader (on above list) is up.

http://www.argusleader.com/

It just came on line, and as a fresh poll, it shows Edwards way ahead. :)

[Homerr]

161. GOP: that all you got? Come on! Fight like a man!

I'm new to the DU, but have watched in the wings for a while and last week I got involved. Don't these rep's have computers or use them? I'm doing these polls and they are best case Cheney 37% and worst case Cheney 1%.

Is that all you got GOP? Who's the girlie-man now!?!



Wow, I feel euphoric - just like after last week's debate!!!

[benito]

162. Good Job

Welcome Homerr! :hi:

[Homerr]

164. And no offense to the ladies out there. =)

Fighting fire with fire feels good!

[drfemoe]

211. Welcome to DU!!

:hi:

[Contrary1]

165. In just 60 seconds...

One poll went from:

Cheney 9915 to 9951 :nuke:

Edwards 35,045 to 35,184 :headbang:

[Pale Blue Dot]

166. Bravo, Skinner et al.

You are establishing DU as not only a place for progressives to gather and meet, but also as an important website, one that will help to shape the future of this country. It's a big step to take, and you guys are handling it masterfully. Great job! :thumbsup:

[bobthedrummer]

167. Done-thanks Skinner!

:thumbsup:

[Qanisqineq]

169. Another poll... didn't see it on your list

http://www.in-forum.com/
Fargo, ND

I was only the 3rd person voting. Poll is a little difficult to see, you have to click on a link to bring it up.

[Qanisqineq]

184. Thanks for putting it up. Poll moved to be in plain view now

n/t

[lakemonster11]

188. Ha ha

I love how the bar graph actually extends right on the screen. It makes Edwards' lead more impressive.

[amber dog democrat]

171. this is wonderful

We are off to a good start. I hope the trend continues.
I was very pleased with Edwards.

[Nana]

173. Kfox..el paso..poll

http://www.kfoxtv.com/index.html

[Duppers]

174. Hampton Road's poll is up now

Hampton Roads: http://www.hamptonroads.com

Edwards is way ahead with 78%. That's some statement for this very republican, military area.

Yeah!

[ClassWarrior]

175. Time Magazine and Daytona News Journal up

http://www.time.com/time
http://www.news-journalonline.com

23.

[ClassWarrior]

177. Detroit News up

http://info.detnews.com/feedback/lettersindex.cfm?topic=Rate_the_vp_debate&forum=dnletters

23.

[Duppers]

178. Knoxville's poll

http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/poll/0,1406,KNS_356_54501,00.html

Edwards 75% !!!!!!!!

I wonder what their damn paper will say tomorrow!

[Paradise]

179. Thank You! Fantastic List of Sources! All the open polls DONE!

Gotta get up at 5:00 a.m. so guess I won't get Tulsa and the few remaining unopen polls.
Thank you, again! :hi: :yourock:

[Paradise]

183. KICK! n/t

[medeak]

186. WTF? Cheney wins ABC poll?

A Debate Win
Cheney Gains With Help From his Friends

Analysis
By Gary Langer



Oct. 6, 2004— Dick Cheney prevailed in the vice presidential debate with help from a more Republican audience — and more support from his ticket's side than John Edwards got from his.

[Gold Metal Flake]

189. Orlando radio station poll needs some luv.

http://www.540wfla.com/main.html

[ochazuke]

190. BBC Word Service takes text messages

and reads them.

I will edit in the number if I hear it.

[NVMojo]

191. please hit this poll!

http://www.rgj.com/

Reno Gazette Journal, Reno NV

Thanks

[drfemoe]

193. og.. we are winning big!

The PBS is my favorite. .. deficient .. deficient .. deficient ..

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2004/debates/ballot_vp.html

Thanks for putting this together.
:thumbsup: all the work you do.

[thecrow]

194. Cheney is a winner!

In-Forum Fargo ND http://www.in-forum.com
This website has Edwards at like 90% as the winner and they post a story about how Cheney is the winner!!! ROFL

Please, everybody, take a few minutes and do these polls.
The winds ARE changing!

[drfemoe]

212. un-frigin-real

93% to 6% and they say Scowl won??? A stretch, to say the least.

LTTE's needed!!!

[batmankm]

195. CNN & Time changed polls mid stream

Did you see how CNN dropped the "who won" poll and replaced it with a "did it change your vote" poll. When I took it earlier and it was a "who won" Edwards was smoking. They must have decided they didnt want to slam Bush both debates so far and yanked it. Then over at Time same thing. They had a "who won" poll but have now dropped it and replaced it with a "send us you comments on the debate" here is what i sent them


John Edwards won this debate hands down. One thing became very clear to me with this debate, John Edwards and John Kerry have fresh new ideas and strategies for addressing the problems we face in this country. New ways to confront Terror, to protect us at home, to address growing poverty, to help make health insurance more affordable, to fix the mess in Iraq and to put people back to work. Bush Cheney want to give us 4 more years of the same ideas and strategies. John Kerry and John Edwards clearly care about, and will fight for, the working class and Bush Cheney want to give tax cuts to the rich and to help corporations.

Another thing that became clear tonight is that Bush and Cheney distort the truth continually. They don't tell the truth to the American public about the state of our union, the war in Iraq and mostly about the record and positions of John Kerry & John Edwards. On many occasions John Edwards pointed out the miss direction and miss information, like Cheney's constant drawing of connections between iraq and Al Quada or 911, or the truth about the horrible drug company windfalls in the healthcare bill, or how they constantly claim John Kerry would let other countries have authority over our military decisions. I was glad to see Cheney finally confronted on these and many other distortions that he continually spews on the campaign trail.

Lastly john Edwards was positive and communicated hope for a better way and a better day. Cheney promised more of the same and instilled fear by continually threatening the American people with possible terrorist strikes with chemical or nuclear weapons. When in fact it is their administration that has not funded security here at home leaving our ports vulnerable, our nuclear and chemical plants un protected, airline cargos not checked and the worst the creation of a new terrorist training ground by creating a mess in Iraq.

John Edwards made it clear tonight. Its time for a new direction, its time for new ideas, its time for a change, its time for the country to vote for Kerry Edwards!

[Rhiannon12866]

196. Shit. FR stole our list of polls!

This is the first and only time that I have ever cursed on DU, and I apologize, but this is something that we should have thought of. I checked out FR, wondering if they had a similar list of polls, and they sure do, but they didn't have to do the work, as we did, to compile it. They just stole ours and readily admit it. I was so impressed with this thread and how wonderfully easy this made it to vote and passed it on to a few like-minded friends. I cannot tell you how angry I am feeling right now!:grr:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236185/posts

[drfemoe]

198. don't worry

about it. They do that *sh*t* all the time.

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. :D

monkey see, monkey do.

[Rhiannon12866]

200. I am so pissed off that I broke out into a sweat!

And I'm someone who's always cold. I was so impressed with the great job that the guys on DU did in organizing these polls for us. It took a lot of work, but they did it well and fast. My carpal tunnel is killing me after I voted in so many polls!

But these bastards just stole our list and are boasting about having done so!!! This really sent me over the edge, even though Edwards won all of them by wide margins.

On FR they are still saying that Cheney won, though I cannot imagine why. Yes, I know that they do this *sh*t* all the time. But that doesn't make it right. They aren't flattering us, but taking advantage of the hard work done by so many on DU. Sorry again for swearing. Did you know that you can't swear on Free Republic? I am a member there, so I know their rules. But I have avoided them since the Republican convention, until tonight. My stomach just couldn't take it, anymore, and I knew I was I was in real danger of tipping my hand. Morans!:grr:

[drfemoe]

202. okay

I can see that you have some emotion invested.
Would never make light of that.
I actually avoid 'them' like the plague. You may want to consider that option.

The only thing "right" about them is their bs. They just cannot get a grasp.

It occurred to me immediately that they would be over here stealing.

What I do find annoying is that their trashy traffic puts a crimp in DU. In the past I suggested (to admin) to restrict them to the home page during high traffic. They don't just steal content, they theft the bandwidth.

They can't freep reality forever. For that we are grateful.

ps.. for the carpel tunnel .. try this, when you go to sleep at night, make a conscious effort to not curl your wrists, keep them straight. It worked wonders for me.

Hope you feel better. They aren't worth the sweat.

[Rhiannon12866]

204. Thanks so much for the wise words and the sympathy

But you can see how this would send me over the edge, since they stole from us and are boasting about it. I have belonged to Free Republic for awhile. It's just been recently that I have felt I had to avoid them because I couldn't keep my temper. I got really angry about their attacks on John Kerry's Vietnam War record and certainly defended him. I told them that this was not a good issue for Bush*-Cheney, without the *, of course, LOL! You can imagine how they reacted.

Yes, of course, you're right, I should just avoid them. But I do want to know what they're up to. I live in a blue state, but in a red district. I am surrounded by Freepers, scary thought.

And you are right, that they cannot get a grasp. Edwards won every poll by a large margin, but they are still claiming on FR that Cheney won. They manage to delude themselves so easily. And they believe the lies. I am hearing a repeat of them right now, on C-Span.

Thanks for the advice about the carpal tunnel. I have a wrist brace, but can't find it. I'll try this, but it's feeling better.

I know that they aren't worth the sweat, but I'm surrounded by them, in my family and in my community, so I've gotten sensitive. I have gotten good at detecting the lies, thanks to DU, and find it harder and harder to deal with.

Thanks so much, again. FYI, nobody seems to sympathize with anybody else on FR, except me, of course. They have recently added a "vanity" forum, where people can actually post something personal. But I don't think I'll be going back there.:shrug:

[drfemoe]

225. Your name

"Rhiannon", is especially appealing.

We are all surrounded. That is why we stand.

"Sympathy" and "Freeper" cannot be reconciled.
iow . 'compassionate conservative' does not exist, ime.

Take care of Rhiannon.

Rhiannon rings like a bell thru the night
And wouldn't you love to love her
She rules her life like a bird in flight
And who will be her lover...

All your life you've never seen
A woman--taken by the wind
Would you stay if she promised you heaven
Will you ever win...

She is like a cat in the dark
And then she is the darkness
She rules her life like a fine skylark--
And when the sky is starless--

All your life you've never seen--
A woman--taken by the wind
Would you stay if she promised you heaven
Will you ever win...

Dreams unwind.
Love's a state of mind.

Stevie Nicks

[Kierkegaard]

219. Look at post 14

:shrug:

[Stockholm]

197. Edward is even winning on Fox!! haw haw n/t

[Reciprocity]

201. Well it 3 am and I’m through with the list.

Time to toss my cookies and clear my history.

[lindsayg]

206. freerepublic stealing bandwidth

yes.gif & no.gif are being used by freerepublic, someone should change them..............to porn.

[Sleepless In NY]

210. Please Vote in the Newsday Poll!

http://www.newsday.com (Look for "e-Poll: Rate the candidates")

Thank You!

[LostInAnomie]

213. Done but its been freeped hard

[Rhiannon12866]

216. I guess it has been Freeped! WOW!

This is the only poll I've seen which favored Cheney, whose lies I am listening to, again, right now. I'll kick your post and pass it on!
:wow:

I'm sleepless in NY, as well.:scared:

[Rhiannon12866]

214. I agree. I wish that we could put FR out of business!

But I'd like to welcome you to DU, marijhane! I'm so glad that you found us, and just in time!:hi:

[bitchkitty]

215. Some of the polls, like the Newsday poll,

might be blocking votes that come from this URL. I don't know another explanation as to why Newsday shows Cheney with a clear win. I'll bet the babies at FR are crying and sending emails. You guys might want to open another browser window and go to the poll from a different page.

[RebelOne]

222. Edwards is ahead on the majority of the polls.

He's way behind in Denver and Tulsa. And Newsweek really worries me.

[oddtext]

217. BEHIND in Charlotte.com

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=kr-cltissues&msg=1309.1&ctx=0

DU it.

[Judi Lynn]

218. KMBZ Talk Radio in Kansas City is being freeped this morning!

Here's their situation right now:

Current Poll: What do you think?

Question % Choices
Which candidate won last night's vice presidential debate? 78% Vice President Dick Cheney
22% Senator John Edwards
0% It was a tie

http://www.kmbz.com/#survey

Right column. This station runs Rush Limbaugh and John Savage, etc.
Only their morning show is live, and does local news. They refer to their poll frequently during their show.

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

223. Newsday, Denver Post and Sun-Sentinel are running behind

This is as of 7:45 a.m. EST Wednesday.

[demnan]

224. I go to bed early so I voted this morning

you guys did a GREAT JOB! All the polls except one (Denver Post) seem to be going our way. :bounce:

[melv]

226. KOTV -TULSA- will not let you vote for Edwards

I keep clicking the damn think, the page reloads and acts of if nothing happened!

Good grief, I am embarrassed to live here!