ARM yoursleves with this Damning CHENEY quote which surfaced today

[seventhson]

Cheney quote that surfaced today:

"Once we had rounded up Saddam, then the question is what do you
do. . . . You’d have to put some kind of a government in place, and
then the question comes is it going to be a Shia government or a
Kurdish government. Or maybe a Sunni government, or maybe it
ought to be based on the old Baathist party regime or some combination
thereof. How long is that government going to be able to
stay in power without U.S. military support to keep it there. . . . I
would guess if we’d have gone to Baghdad I’d still have forces in
Iraq today. I don’t know how we would have let go of that tar baby
once we grabbed hold of it.

-- Richard Cheney, Address to a National Press Club Luncheon, transcript,
Washington, D.C., Reuters, May 20, 1992. Cited in Stephen T. Hosmer,
Operations Against Enemy Leaders, RAND, MR-1385-AF, 2001.


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Please pass it along!!!

[KC21304]

1. He has already answered. He said " 9/11 changed everything "

[CarolynEC]

2. Soon we'll be able to say...

"November 2nd changed everything"

:)

[girl gone mad]

3. You're right.

That's exactly what he said.

Apparently, 9/11 destroyed his ability to reason.

[LittleClarkie]

6. Changing bad policy to good in the blink of an eye

Now they're cuddling that tar baby as if it were a long lost son.

[ozymandius]

7. What changed?

(Sorry for the straw man rebuke.)

What relation does 9/11 have to the system of a post-U.S. invasion Iraqi government when Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11?

By Cheney's logic, 9/11 should have somehow changed the map's borders, putting France into northern Africa.

[lightbulb]

4. link

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/pubs/soref/cheney.htm

he also added...

I think it is vitally important for a President to know when to use military force. I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force. And it's my view that the President got it right both times, that it would have been a mistake for us to get bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq.

[Nlighten1]

5. Here is even more. Send this out via email.

Does this qualify as a flip flop?

"And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth?" Cheney said then in response to a question.

"And the answer is not very damned many. So I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq."

About 146 Americans were killed in the Gulf War. More than 1,000 U.S. soldiers have died in the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath.

Going to Baghdad, Cheney said in 1992, would require a much different approach militarily than fighting in the open desert outside the capital, a type of warfare that U.S. troops were not familiar, or comfortable fighting.


"All of a sudden you've got a battle you're fighting
in a major built-up city, a lot of civilians are around, significant limitations on our ability to use our most effective technologies and techniques," Cheney said.

"Once we had rounded him up and gotten rid of his government, then the question is what do you put in its place? You know, you
then have accepted the responsibility for governing Iraq."

Last week, Cheney attacked Kerry for his alleged inconsistencies. "Senator Kerry ... said that under his leadership, more of
America's friends would speak with one voice on Iraq. That seems a little odd coming from a guy who doesn't speak with one voice himself. By his repeated efforts to recast and redefine the war on terror and our operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Senator Kerry has given every indication that he lacks the resolve, the determination and the conviction to prevail in the conflict we face."

Cheney's office did not respond to requests for comment about his 1992 statements, nor did the White House. The Bush-Cheney
re-election campaign, also asked about the 1992 statements, did not respond.

Despite his reservations 12 years ago, Cheney was one of this administration's vocal and unrelenting supporters of invading Iraq.
The decision was based on Saddam's reported development of nuclear, biological and other weapons of mass destruction that Bush and Cheney said posed a direct and imminent threat to the United States.

No weapons, however, have been found.

That debate will intensify tomorrow when Bush and Kerry square off in a debate that is expected to focus heavily on the future of Iraq and more broadly the war on terror.

The Bush campaign launched a new ad yesterday accusing "Kerry and congressional liberals" of "putting our protection at risk."

"Strength builds peace. Weakness invites those who
do us harm," the ad says, a suggestion that Kerry would be a weak leader in wartime and a country headed by him would be vulnerable to terrorist attacks.

The ad accuses Kerry of "refusing to support our
troops in combat" and trying to severely slash intelligence budgets and eliminate military weapons after the first attack on the World Trade Center.

Throughout the campaign, Bush and especially Cheney
have ridiculed Kerry for changing positions on the war in Iraq and presenting a confusing and distorted picture of the future of that country.

But in his 1992 remarks in Seattle, Cheney
foreshadowed a future in Iraq that is remarkably close to conditions found there today, suggesting that it would be difficult to bring the country's various political factions together and that U.S. troops would be vulnerable toinsurrection and guerrilla attacks.

"Now what kind of government are you going toestablish? Is it going to be a Kurdish government, or a Shi'ia government, or aSunni government, or maybe a government based on the old Baathist Party, or some mixture thereof? You will have, I think by that time, lost the support of the
Arab coalition that was so crucial to our operations over there," he said.

The end result, Cheney said in 1992, would be a
messy, dangerous situation requiring a long-term presence by U.S. forces.

[jimshoes]

9. Good ammo for the

flip flop charge. Hope JE has had time to see this.

[Spinzonner]

8. Obviously he hasnt been getting anough blood to his brain for a while

it's time to give him a medical retirement with prejudice in the interests of his health ...

and the country's

[Disturbed]

10. Cheney attack on J. Kerry Senate Votes.

He and Sean Hannity have been pounding on this. Cheney's voting record has not, of course been scrutenized. His votes were similar to J. Kerry's in many cases. Cheney is a complete liar and hypocrite.