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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:16 PM
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We have a illegal scam going on right now by the freepers[Alert everyone]
Freepers are trying to scam the media as we speak.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236162/posts

The idea of EVERYONE voting for Edwards is better. That idea is floating around too. That would skew the polls so out of whack the pollsters would be forced to admit the fraud.



8 posted on 10/05/2004 2:55:09 PM PDT by BallyBill (Proud Lt. JG Evil Rove Corps V.R.W.C.)
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It's within the 3 hours before the debate that it happened last time. I'll bet Freepers could compose some good DU letters. Here's mine:
Dear media person from list:

I thought that Senater Edwards showed the hes ready to take over as presedent if Kerry is elected presedent. Chaney is a mean old man and Edwards is smooth and goodlooking I hope he wins. Sure made up my mind in this debate. Please keep up the good work. Thanks!

Very truly, XXXX


12 posted on 10/05/2004 3:05:19 PM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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Flood their emails with Edwards is a winner, then vote Bush in the online polls.
They won't know the Dems from us in the emails, and it is so personal it will tick them off because they will be flooded with thousands of emails.



20 posted on 10/05/2004 3:42:54 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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I don't know. Last Thursday night was too busy fighting to keep sanity on the board to have a chance to fight Dem spin.

It's not even something I'd generally do, prefering my responses to be voluntarily and honest. However, war is ugly and post debate spin has become a war in itself. So guess they can count me in, provided we can control the number of "sky is falling" posts tonight.



22 posted on 10/05/2004 3:59:15 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:17 PM
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1. I can't wait until November 3rd.
:crazy: :eyes:
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Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:21 PM
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4. That's the vote that counts....nm
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:19 PM
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2. There is no possible harm in their proposal
Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 07:21 PM by troublemaker
Nobody reads emails on a night like this, and certainly nobody will decide to give Bush better coverage because Kerry letters are illiterate.

This is an anticipatory version of the classic Republican "I meant to do that."

The idea that the pollsters will have to "admit" something is rich. I don't think anyone hosting an online poll considered last week's 90% Kerry polls to be scientific.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:26 PM
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13. you're wrong
Remember the back lash we got for our letters last week where they blamed all of us about the 500 to 0 and discredited every letter? Someone even posted a article here where they complained because of letters being sent early. If we write off everything as little then we will be the ones suffering last as they get away with it.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:20 PM
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3. Weak! This is why I always prefer being honest...
And I can't believe they think we have that poor grammar.

Pffft!

david
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:23 PM
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9. they don't think we have poor grammar
they just can't spell.
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:21 PM
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5. hehe, what a silly "ploy"
The small percentage of freeps that go along with this nonsense will only contribute marginally to the poll numbers. Very childish.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:46 PM
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22. These are the people who brought us "freedom toast"
and "freedom fries," and "W" Ketchup, and beating up on the Dixie Chicks, and portraying 20-year+ Senators as beach shoes.

Did you expect anything different?
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CrowNotAngelGRL Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:32 PM
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29. Don't forget
Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 10:33 PM by CrowNotAngelGRL
they blamed Marylin Manson for the Columbine incident. :eyes:


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:21 PM
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6. So...Media blast the freeper thread to the media to warn them.
.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:23 PM
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10. Exactly - if word comes out later, keep your screen shot. n/t
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:42 PM
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21. EXACTLY
Instead of just letting it happen, it would be easier to just expose the idiots.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:22 PM
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7. Shouldn't they spell it "Edwerds"?
Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 07:23 PM by theorist
This won't do anything. We'll easily whip them in the online poll contest. Extra 'fake' emails or LTTE's will have no effect. I don't even understand the motive for doing it. 'It will tick them off'? What's that supposed to mean?

I love the last of the three here: "provided we can control the number of 'sky is falling' posts". I hate to be mean spirited, but these guys are a bunch of dumbasses.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:22 PM
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8. I vote ONCE in online polls.
And fuck the freepers.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:40 PM
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20. I vote ONCE in online polls
but I never fuck freepers. eeeeeeeeiuw!

:evilgrin:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:23 PM
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11. ...and then they will get tired. Heeheehee.
Cute.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:25 PM
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12. Shhh Let them do it.
fools
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:26 PM
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14. This thread just shows how hopeless they are...
We need to forward this thread to all the major news networks to show the media what a bunch of lying bigots they are.
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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:30 PM
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15. Ha ha ha
Yah deluge the polls like you did last time. Ha ha ha. Grandpa grinch will be grateful. Ha ha ha.
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soggy Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:30 PM
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16. great, i hope they do it!
they really are JUST THAT DUMB, aren't they? it just makes our work easier. sure, they'll sound like idiots in their letters, but if they think the media is going to show some sort of bias AGAINST idiots, then they haven't noticed the people that make up bush's base.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:32 PM
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17. They seem to have no logic
center of the brain. Last wk, many online polls showed that Kerry won the debate 90-10% which was close to the truth but definately non-scientific. The Freeper "ploy" will end up with a similar result. Consider, all of us vote once for Edwards in a poll plus a few Freepers (maybe 100 at most) "freep" it 20 times each. Have they considered the many Republicans who will watch the debate who are not on Free Republic and who don't know about this "strategy?" They will vote for Cheney, and we may well end up with another 90-10 Dem spread, which, if the scientific phone or street polls show Edwards with a win, will only help us. Ahh, poor Freepers, so deluded.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:34 PM
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18. Reason why I posted this
http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep04.html#

This support for Kerry came at a bad time

October 4, 2004

BY RICHARD ROEPER SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Advertisement

Last Thursday's presidential debate was still in progress when the e-mails started trickling in from citizens around the country. At 8:28 p.m. CST, Catie Tierney of Douglas, Ga., wrote: "John Kerry did an AMAZING job tonight. His arguments were valid and very well-said. I sincerely hope he wins the election this fall. He will make a far better president than Bush."

Harvey Jones chimed in: "Have you noticed Bush's body language? He seems to be blinking an awful lot. I hear this is one of the usual signs of lying."

Next up, Anne Horton Wood of Knoxville, Tenn.: "John Kerry showed the voters why he should be president, while Bush looked and sounded like a whiny little boy who has grown old, but has never grown up."

At 9:31 p.m., the trickle of e-mails turned into a hurricane.

"I am an undecided voter in Florida," wrote Andrew Monaco, "and I wanted to let you know that I think John Kerry won the debate.... Kerry was more in command of the issues and looked more presidential. The president was flustered and distracted."

Joyce Mulazzi of Suwannee, Ga.: "John Kerry proved he is a LEADER by discussing his plans for our country and discrediting President Bush's claims. George Bush proved that he is a CHEER-LEADER by . . . stating over and over again about the hard work he's done. It's not hard work lying to us, alienating us from the rest of the world, ruining our environment, and making the rich richer."

Pam Gordon, Orchard Lake, Mich.: "Kerry was the clear winner. He was poised, knowledgeable and outlined his points clearly."

Kristine Serrano, Westminster, Co.: "I am a registered independent who has decided to vote for John Kerry. President Bush looked very unprepared for the debate. Sen. Kerry . . . possessed excellent command of every issue."

The flood of "Kerry won!" messages continued all Thursday night and well into Friday -- more than 500 in all.

And not one supported Bush.

You've got mail!



Even most Bushies concede the debate was not the president's finest moment -- but come on, 500 to 0? These e-mails seemed about as authentic as the missives I get from Congo dictator Mobuto Sese-Seko, asking my help in transferring his secret stash of millions.

News organizations throughout the country were inundated with the pro-Kerry e-mails. The Democratic National Committee acknowledges sending e-mails to supporters encouraging them to go online on debate night and write e-mails to "the editor of your local paper." On the DNC's Web site, there's even a sample letter to get you started. Dozens of pro-Kerry bloggers and Web sites also encouraged readers to flood the media. Many included lists of the e-addresses of reporters and columnists.

Bad idea. This was the wrong e-mail campaign directed at the wrong people at the wrong time.

The !#@*! factor



Think of the thousands of reporters tapping away on deadline. Cell phones being what they are, maybe these journalists are instant messaging or e-mailing with a source or a colleague or an editor, or they're online doing some quick background research. Every time a "ping" announces e-mail, they click over to it -- only to find another half-dozen unsolicited testimonials.

An organized campaign like this is also an insult. As if we're supposed to write, "According to the e-mails this journalist received, 100 percent of the country now supports John Kerry for president...."

Instead, the move backfired. The Washington Post was among those ripping the effort, noting that one e-mail praising Kerry's performance arrived in the paper's in-box more than four hours before Jim Lehrer's first question.

I sent a mini-questionnaire to about two dozen of these e-mailers. Are they involved in Democratic politics? Did they write the letter on their own? How did they come across my e-mail address?

"My friend's mother sent me a list of media outlets," said one. "I guess you could say I was encouraged, but the words, thoughts, and motivations are mine."

David Rondeau, Stoneham, Mass.: "Do I work for the Kerry campaign? No. Am I 'involved in politics' as a concerned citizen? Yes. I got the list from a blog.

Richard Spears: "I wrote based on a suggestion from a friend that's involved in politics."

Daniela Cusack, a grad student at UC Berkeley: "Some friends said they heard it would be helpful to e-mail media outlets to make sure they accurately portray who won the debate (clearly Kerry)."

Everybody who responded to my questions was sincere, smart, polite. Many were apologetic about flooding my e-box.

No need to apologize. You didn't knock on my door or call me in the middle of the night.

But whether you're a Kerry campaign worker or just a concerned citizen, remember:

It's always a good idea to wait until the event is over before you look back on it.


E-mail: rroeper@suntimes.com. Republicans, Democrats and independents welcome.

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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:48 PM
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23. To paraphrase Yogi, sometimes it IS over before it's over
At least some of the emails Roeper quotes were still based on what the individuals had seen in the debate. Boosh started with the blinking and stammering and "hard work" insisting long before the event concluded. What's wrong with someone posting their impression halfway through the event?

There's another old saying -- You don't get a second chance to make a first impression. If someone saw a boosh who had lost it in the first ten minutes, that impression was likely to stay with them.

I think it was wrong for Roeper to dismiss these people just because they wrote to him before the debate was over. They still had valid impressions.

It only takes one bite to know the apple's rotten.


Tansy Gold, in cliché mode big time today
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:38 PM
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19. The answer is SIMPLE, my friends
Just keep an eye on the online polls.

If they're skewing greatly for Edwards, we don't need to vote to add to the skew. ;)

If the voting is for Cheney (which I can't imagine him winning), then we know what we'll need to do.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:51 PM
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24. LOL...Go ahead Freepshits and vote Edwards all you want
that'll show us!
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:19 PM
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25. someone call into air america and tell them what freepers were up to
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Kusala Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:23 PM
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26. I see their post-debate planning is about as good as their post-iraq
planning
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:24 PM
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27. The Repubikkkens corrupt??? LOL No news here
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:29 PM
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28. What happened to "Truth Be Demand"?
LOL.:-)
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:30 PM
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30. LOL
In short, "They're kicking our ass. We're desperate!"

That's funny.
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