LIST CHENEY LIES HERE.

[gcomeau]

Both his statements and the documentation that the statement was false. List has to be sent to the media as soon as the debate is over.

[cheshire]

1. OMG everything he says is a lie.

[gcomeau]

2. Need specific documentation for the press.

[One Taste]

11. definitely, that helps a lot

[Spiffarino]

16. Including "and" and "the"

:eyes:

[0rganism]

3. Let's wait for the transcript, otherwise it's too hard to keep up

Everything that comes out of his grimacing mouth is a lie or a distortion.

[KDLarsen]

7. I think JK/JE Rapid Response will do so

They did a pretty good job after the presidential "debate".

[gcomeau]

25. Can't hurt to help them out.

We may get something they missed.

-Grant

[gcomeau]

4. 10 million registered voters in Afghanistan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3600742.stm

That's not a sign the elections are on track, Cheney you moron.

-Grant

[Kipepeo]

5. he said the jobs figures are outdated

and then says they've created jobs this past year.

But those jobs were FAR below projections and still don't compare to those lost. Not ONE net job has been created under this administration!

[Keirsey]

13. Lying by omission

Cheney attacked Edwards' record in the Senate, rather than addressing Halliburton's circumenting of the Iran sanctions through offshore companies.

[nyhuskyfan]

6. 34 countries vs. 30 countries

He's comparing countries who fought in 1991 to those who have offered their support this time around. If you counted countries who offered their support in 1991, as well as those who fought, it would be over 100 countries.

[johnnyrocket]

15. 34 country vs. 30 YES, total BULLSHIT! The 30 he's talking about

are countries like tonga and micronesia...We had Jordan and Egypt et. al. during the Gulf War.

[gcomeau]

17. Someone find an actual list of coutries please!

Both Gulf war and Bush's "coalition" at the time of invasion that we can send to the press for side-by-side comparison.

-Grant

[johnnyrocket]

19. Bush's list is EMBARRASING! its US,UK, Aussies, and DONT FORGET

Uhh, nevermind, Polands pulling out. The rest are gnats on the world stage.

[kokomo]

18. Home of the Whopper : HALF of casualties are other COALITION members, BUT

Cheney is including Iraqis as members! I don't remember any Iraqis fighting alongside the U.S. on the blitzkrieg drive to Baghdad. But now Cheney is counting Iraqi deaths, many of which are the result of U.S. 1000 lb bombs.

[gcomeau]

22. Allied countries in the Gulf war

Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Honduras, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, The Netherlands, Niger, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Korea, Spain, Syria, Turkey, The United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States.

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761551555/Persian_Gulf_War.html

"Beginning a week after the Iraqi takeover of Kuwait and continuing for several months, a large international force gathered in Saudi Arabia. The United States sent more than 400,000 troops, and more than 200,000 additional troops came from Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, France, Kuwait, Egypt, Syria, Senegal, Niger, Morocco, Bangladesh, Pakistan, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Oman, and Bahrain. Other countries contributed ships, air forces, and medical units, including Canada, Italy, Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Greece, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Czechoslovakia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Poland, and South Korea. Still other countries made other contributions: Turkey allowed air bases on its territory to be used by coalition planes, and Japan and Germany gave financial support...

THAT'S a coalition!

Someone please get a list of the countries that contributed more than moral support during the Iraq invasion.

-Grant

[gcomeau]

8. He used the "Kerry voted against the weapons systems" garbage...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/weapons.asp

-Grant

[Texas_Dem]

9. Just get the whole transcript.

[Eurobabe]

10. Kerry's 98 votes to raise taxes

BS dick.

[Beaverhausen]

12. said he never linked 9/11 and saddam

then tried to link them 20 minutes later.

and this thread does it quite nicely:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x976299

[Spiffarino]

14. "900,000 small business...

...will be hit by increased taxes."

Well, if you count all the tiny investments all your multibillionaire buddies put their money in as "small businesses."

Own a racehorse? Then you're a small businessman! Own a stock car team? Then you are a small businessman! It doesn't matter that you are also richer than God himself...you are a small businessman!

[TexasBushwhacker]

27. Small businesses won't be hit unless they aren't incorporated

and frankly, if they aren't incorporated, they probably don't have enough income to fall into the top bracket.

If they do have enough net income to fall into the top tax bracket, they should incorporate, either as a C-Corp or as a LLC (Limited Liability Corporation). They pay themselves and their employees or partners a salary. Anything beyond salary and all business expenses remains corporate income at the following rates:

0 - $50K - 15%
50K - 75K - 25%
75K - 100K - 34%
100K - 335K - 39%
335K - $10Million - 34%

BTW, there are capital gains rates for corporate investments as well.

[napi21]

20. Sorry, I can't possibly type that much tonight! n/t

[AirAmFan]

21. "Zarqawi was in Baghdad" before the invasion

Actually, Zarqawi was in Iraqi Kurdistan, with the US no-fly zone between him and Saddam's army. And, THREE TIMES over many months, the Bush White House VETOED specific Pentagon battle plans to annihilate Zarqawi's camp. NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reported this over seven months ago, at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601 . See also http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x974981
and the links relayed there.

[gcomeau]

23. Hell yes... we've got to nail that one. -nt

[ochazuke]

24. Yes! Very underreported story

Needs to be reported elsewhere. I wish Edwards had nailed him on it, but you have only so much time, I guess.

[TexasBushwhacker]

26. Number of Coalition Countries and Support in Iraq

In response to Edwards reiterating Kerry's statement that 90% of the cost and 90% of the casualties in Iraq are American and that we need more international support.

BTW, the actual number right now is about 140,000 American troops and approximately 20,000 coalition soldiers. Even on the White House site, IRAQ isn't listed as part of the coalition.

Yes, there are approximately 100,000 Iraqis have signed up to be part of their security force. The vast majority have received no more than 3 weeks training. Only 8,000 have received more than 3 weeks training. Iraqi casualties are not listed as coalition casualties, even if they are part of the coalition friendly Iraqi forces.