OFFICIAL EDWARDS-CHENEY DEBATE THREAD #12

[Skinner]

[Lizz612]

1. Cheney's head

So much pancake makup to keep the shine down! ;)

[Dudley_DUright]

6. Lighting on Cheney is awful

Looks ghoulish.

[da_chimperor]

13. Totally uncle fester

[henslee]

16. Just me or has Dick become mumbly... throaty.. lispy..

[Peanut Gallery]

32. Maybe he's getting tired

[ellie]

2. More in common with John Edwards than

not? Is Crashcart folding? He looks tired and he is making me tired.

[lasttrip]

10. he mumbling big time.

[crispini]

20. WTF? He's completely fading.

The first part, he was pretty weasely and on his game. Now he's kind of fading out.

[da_chimperor]

3. I thought dick kept saying he had great hair like JE

that's talking about yourself. It's also an outright lie.

[AngryLizard]

He doesn't talk as much about himself as JE does

That's because you don't want to strike fear and terror into your supporters, Dick.

Not only that, but most people didn't know who JE was. He had to introduce himself, you miserable human being.

I cannot STAND THESE PEOPLE!!!

[Duncan Grant]

4. Cheney as a sympathetic character?! That's rich.

[JerseygirlCT]

8. Trying to borrow some of Edwards'

[tjdee]

5. WTF kind of questions are THESE????

How are you different from your opponent??

What is this, fucking fifth grade?

[No2W2004]

25. yeah, I don't get these questions either

what about energy?

[txindy]

36. Next it'll be "Tell us something no one else knows about you!"

:eyes:

[annabanana]

38. friggen "Big Brother House" question WTF

[LiberalFighter]

74. And not using the top name of your ticket??

That was a wasted question.

[No2W2004]

7. Cheney just won't answer the fucking questions

he just drones on and on and on and on

[SemiCharmedQuark]

9. "My grandfather never graduated from high school!"

Yeah, how old is he? Lots of grandfathers back in 1900s didn't graduate highschool. Hell my grandma didn't and she was 30 years later.

[0007]

11. twelve minutes to go!

Cheney can't overcome John Edwards victory at this point.

[Duppers]

12. Cheney signed on so that he could work the strings! nt

True.

[Jade Fox]

14. Cheney's really softened his attacking, Edwards really going good...

[onager]

26. Now Dick is channeling $hrub...

...the mumbling, droning, apparently losing train of thought, etc.

[saigon68]

15. CHENEY = ONE LEGGED MAN IN ASS KICKING CONTEST

He just looks sleazy

[AntiFascist]

17. The fear factor again: nukes in the middle of a major city

[Lerkfish]

30. is this the October surprise? BFEE nuking our own city???

fear monger
war profiteer

[Peanut Gallery]

18. Cheney: "We face a threat now

of a nuclear bomb in the middle of one of our cities."

I thought we were safer. :crazy:

[crickets]

63. Don't think!

They'll keep you safe, but... YOU'RE IN DANGER! Ask no questions, just trussssst ussss, precious. :eyes:

[Dangerman]

19. Cheney's a chickenhawk.

That's what makes "F*ck" Cheney different from Edwards.

[napi21]

21. I know Cheney knows you aren't supposed to rest your chin

on your hands when you try to talk!

[Kierkegaard]

22. Unka Dickless keeps folding his arms over his mic.

What a sheissenhead...

[Fleshdancer]

JE: We were attacked, but not by Saddam Hussein

[ReadTomPaine]

23. The comment about Cheney losing steam post daughter issue is on the mark..

[JerseygirlCT]

29. Yeah, but that only serves to make him seem slightly human...

[txindy]

But the ones who would be impressed by his humanity

are probably appalled that he wouldn't publicly support his own child while actively beating down gay people.

[CitySky]

24. backgrounds question

"yes, I too was once human..."

[kaitykaity]

27. You just used JK's name.

Fuck you, you fucking WHORE!!!

[onager]

50. "Flip-flopping has become a recurrent theme..."

Only to GOP tools and media 'ho's, Gwen.

I didn't even know you could get a Journalism degree at Wal-Mart...

[neomonkey]

28. Gwen that was a stupid ass rule

Don't use any names??

WTF.

[crispini]

56. extremely

[LiberalFighter]

84. Wonder where she came up with that idea?

Should had dumped it.

[crickets]

31. Cheney thinks he and Edwards have similar

personal stories? What is he smoking? Public service? What does he think we're smoking? Oi, what a tool.

And bringing up *'s record as CiC is not a plus.

Darn tooting the significance of Sep 11 cannot be overstated. It happened on YOUR watch, DICK while YOU were running drills to confuse the issue. :grr:

[Dangerman]

Best defense is a good offense

Nice touch, John.

[WI_DEM]

33. Edwards is blowing this question

[elcondor]

34. What a BS question

Can't use Kerry and Bush's name?

[bushisanidiot]

35. All Edwards had to do was dance around the ring until the end, but he has

FAR surpassed what he needed to do.

He had Cheney on the ropes several times. Edwards never gave the Penguin a clear shot at him.

Match goes to Edwards.. no doubt about it!

[althecat]

37. Cheney Totally Without Response On Halliburton.... that is his sweep spot

Kerry and Edwards should keep up the pressure on Halliburton. Clearly Cheney has no response... basically in response to allegations apart from lying his only response was to say that Edwards hasn't come to class enough..

[On the Road]

39. JE Just Recovered Well

from using Kerry's name twice "Sorry I broke the rules."

It would have destroyed someone else. JE just brushed it off.

[Dudley_DUright]

40. What is the difference if they mention the name at the top of the ticket?

Juvenile Gwen.

[johnnyrocket]

WTF? Edwards can't say John Kerry!? God dammit.. the freepers

will be all over that stupid rule.

[LizW]

Huh? He's not allowed to say Kerry's name?

Is that really a rule?

[da_chimperor]

49. Anyone remember dickie saying BUSH?

[Dudley_DUright]

69. Just for that one question (which was stupid)

[carpetbagger]

41. Good chop for Edwards "Aw, shucks, the rules"

Drives home the point that this is a pretty artificial forum.

[ncgrits]

42. what is Gwen's problem/

why can't they speak the names of the candidates?
what is this "mother may I?"

[ncgrits]

43. what is Gwen's problem/

why can't they speak the names of the candidates?
what is this "mother may I?"

[0007]

44. I believe Edwards broke the rules purposely

[ncgrits]

61. I like how he made fun of the stupid can't use the name question

Can I use his name now?
I love it!

[da_chimperor]

45. OH! BAM! JE just kicked it up a notch!

Stuff we should be doing: baggage scanning, single terrorist watch list.

[Fleshdancer]

Did Ed Gillespie write these questions himself??? WTF? flipflopping?

[Fatima]

46. Cheney passing up another rebuttal...interesting

[autorank]

53. He's throwing in the towel. Down Goes Cheney!

[ReadTomPaine]

68. These issues are indefensible, he's hopeing the first portion hangs well..

[Kurovski]

47. 9/11 again. shameless flipping whore.

Dick, you are just plain too OOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDD and tired to be VP.

[mconvente]

48. get ready for the polls

edwards said a TON of great stuff but the freepers will be in full force so lets get ready for the polls!

[AgadorSparticus]

51. "Mr. Vice President, we were attacked. But we weren't attacked by Saddam

Hussein." THat was pretty damn good.

[in_cog_ni_to]

52. flip flopping...

oh brother...she's such a wench.

Bremer again!!! 3rd time!!

[spooky3]

65. he's again turning it into examples of Bush flipflops--good

[realFedUp]

54. Edwards talks about vote for authority based on evidence presented

The administration lied about the evidence and
the plan after destroying the country.

[Duncan Grant]

55. Edwards doing a good job attacking * 'record' on Iraq.

[Fleshdancer]

57. WOOHOO Edwards!!!! Hitting hard on Admin's flipflops!

[Lerkfish]

58. flip-flopping? this moderator is using ALL Repug talking points!

wtf????

I hope she is out of a job

[gauguin57]

59. Flip-flop question coming up ... and Edwards is listing the Pugs'

flippity-floppity-floo!

[gumby]

60. Edwards missed ANOTHER opening

When The Dick brought up 9-11

Edwards didn't say: "Yeah, and it happened on YOUR WATCH.

Sorry, Edwards keeps fluffing the softballs.

[da_chimperor]

73. He's being less engaging, acting like dick doesn't really matter

I think he's missing some openings, but countering what he needs to

[Dudley_DUright]

Also should have talked about

the veto threat for the $87 billion package.

[da_chimperor]

62. BUSH FLIPFLOPS!

Perfect! Alot of people will be going "really? wow!"

[noamnety]

72. yes! The patients bill of rights!

biggest flip flop ever

Go JE!

[txindy]

64. SMACKDOWN!! Listing al the * admin.'s own flip-flops!!! Go, JOHN!!!

[crispini]

77. complete! smackdown!

[lasttrip]

66. They cut combat pay go JE

[AntiFascist]

67. Edwards: listing ALL admins flip-flops!!!

[crispini]

70. said one thing and done another

TWO FACED!

[WI_DEM]

71. Edwards is brilliant on flip-flops

[Peanut Gallery]

75. Cheney goading him again on the Iraq vote

[crickets]

76. Call him on the $87B!

Call him on it! I'm sick of that BS.

[onecent]

78. Cheney JUST keeps repeating himself...

wrong war wrong.....blabbity blabbity blabbity.....

[realFedUp]

79. Cheney talking about consistency...

of course Cheney has been consistent saying
there were WMD, and a connection between
9/11 terrorists and Saddam....

consistent and wrong.

[delete_bush]

80. the god-damned 87 billion again

Edwards needs to get all over this, and NOW!

[da_chimperor]

81. "If they need more troops, they'll ask us?"

Wha? So they're not engaged in the war in iraq! They don't know what's happening! That's what DICK just said!

[ReadTomPaine]

82. Cheney playing with his pen?

[tjdee]

83. NO energy questions. NO education questions.

Except when EDWARDS brings it up.

Gwen Ifill IS A LOSER.

[onager]

87. No Child Left Behind...

...our limos...

[kohodog]

93. Do we still have an environment (cough, wheeze, sputter)

[tjdee]

NO Environment questions....

I'm writing to...oh I don't know. Somebody.

[CitySky]

101. energy

disappointment, yes

[AntiFascist]

85. Cheney's education plan: survival of the fittest few

[boomboom]

86. Bless you John Edwards

Held your own, you're a gentleman. Made our points. Kept the mo! I think we've won!!!!!

[Lerkfish]

88. NO Child LB is an UNFUNDED MANDATE.....

that has hurt the education system

[Vincardog]

89. C lieing again For NCLB then against it? NO for it then pay for it

[norml]

90. Cheney is much bigger than Edwards in the split screen.

What's with that?

[kohodog]

104. He may have a big head, but we know he has no heart.

[fameless]

91. Worst. Moderator. Ever.

[mconvente]

92. omg...

this damn mod is a complete moron........

[tishaLA]

94. STORY OF THIS DEBATE:

Gwen Ifill's incompetence.

[Kurovski]

95. Well folks, it's almost time to go vote in online polls.

Take the time to let the spinning media whores know what shit-eating jackals they are by letting them know we know that Edwards won.

Do it!

[Fleshdancer]

96. Really. How hard is it to read pre-written questions to two people and

keep everything straight?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

97. "Waaaaah! They voted for it before we screwed it up!"

[ReadTomPaine]

98. Doing Gwen's job for her... sheesh.

[funkybutt]

99. JE needs to learn to hit a point faster...he wanders to his point

[annabanana]

100. why didn't JE hammer the funding of No Child Left Behind?

he just let it hang there

[ncgrits]

This moderator is TERRIBLE.

Geez. She can't even keep track of who should talk next.
Seems like that part would be pretty basic.

[AngryLizard]

102. Okay, she just SUCKS as a moderator

You can't keep track of whose turn it is??

[napi21]

103. Awww, they feel bad they couldn't unite the country!

Something trying works!

[delete_bush]

105. Edwards is getting too conciliatory

with the mod, his folksiness is looking a little silly to me at this point.

[realFedUp]

106. Edwards clearly will enjoy a bounce from his performance

Cheney sounds as dull and drawn as usual
but real Americans got a chance to really
hear Edwards speak...thoughtfully, smartly
and with good arguments in response.

[elcondor]

107. . . . yeah, fucking crazy Democrats

Zell Miller :eyes:

[AntiCoup2K4]

108. Unfortunately there won't be pics of Uncle Dick's many faces in the Top 10

....Conservative Idiots next week, as he only has one :The Angry Sneer.

[Fleshdancer]

109. JE hitting hard on the "uniter not a divider" BS!!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

110. BOOYAH! "president ran as a uniter not a divider"

[Skinner]

111. thread 13 is open

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x979389

[funkybutt]

112. Zel Miller!! BWAHAHAHAH

WOW>>i thought they'd distance themselves from that crazy asshat..I can't believe that Cheney used his name