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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:27 PM
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I'm at school, How did JE do?
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:04 PM
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1. That depends on your meaning of what "did" means.
JE held his own, but he needed to land at least one knock-out punch. Unfortunately, he didn't deliver.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:50 PM
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2. Oh well
Elections aren't won or lost on Veep debates.

If so, Dukakis would have won in '88.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:04 PM
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6. Headstart, MLK Day, Meals on Wheels
Yes he did. And Halliburton and Iran sanctions connection. Other points as well. It's up to US to make sure the media knows WE think they're a big deal. And that if Cheney hadn't lied, he would have had nothing to say at all.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:53 PM
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3. Edwards did very well
Anybody who expected some kind of wrestling match smackdown will be disappointed. That wasn't going to happen in the first place.

However, it was clear that Edwards smoked Cheney... got him to even pass his rebuttals a few times and forced him to completly fold on the FMA!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:55 PM
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5. Cheney is not an intellectual empty closet ...
Edwards had a difficult job. But I think that Ch*y will be exposed for the vile, mean, liar that he is!
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:06 PM
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7. Yeah liar being the really big word there...
One CNN 'head said that Cheney is like a sedative... I have to agree... you get so numbed by his lies and mumbling that I was slipping into a coma when Cheney spoke. Thankfully, Edwards was there to wake me up!
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:54 PM
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4. I thought JE kicked Uncle Fester's ass all over the place
others disagree
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:48 PM
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8. I thought it was a draw
I have to admit that I'm not extremely impressed by John Edwards and think that maybe somebody like Wesley Clark or Howard Dean MIGHT have made a more effective VP choice BUT as far as the debate tonight, I think that he held his own. It wasn't nearly as impressive as last Thursday's knockdown debate performance by Kerry but I don't think that it needed to be. It's hard to say who actually "won" the debate. I thought that Cheney, if you get beyond his lies, distortions, and sometimes harsh attacks against Kerry/Edwards, held his own as did John Edwards. I didn't really think some of the rules set by the moderator worked well and neither candidate REALLY answered a lot of her questions directly without veering off into a stump speech or a statement of their positions on various issues. There were a few things that Cheney said that I wish that Edwards had attacked viciously, especially when talking about Zarquawi and his alleged link with Saddam Hussein. It would have been devastating for Edwards to point out on national tv how he was operating freely in a US-controlled area until the invasion of Iraq and that Bush reportedly passed up several opportunities to take him out not to mention the fact that he survived the Iraq invasion and is now at-large and causing all kinds of mayhem in Iraq right now. However, there will surely be other opportunities for him (or Kerry) to attack Bush on this along with countering some of the lies and distortions that Cheney spewed out tonight. I have to say that I believe that Cheney might have won on style but Edwards won on substance and I thought that he was very focused and did not get rattled despite the verbal thrashing he was receiving from Cheney.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:52 PM
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9. I thought JE won
Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 11:52 PM by txindy
And for what it's worth, Keith Olbermann blogged live during the debate and gave JE twice as many points as Dickie: 22.5 to 11.

At the very least, JE held his own with the VP while also proving himself exponentially a better man than the republican candidate for president. Easily. (Yes, I mean JE is also better than *.)
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