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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:03 PM
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Cheney Hammered Edwards where it hurt: Lack of experience in Goverment
and weak standing as a Senator.

The truth hurts, but Edwards was not polling well for re-election
to his seat because of his preoccuation with a Presidential run.

But, Cheney's victory over Edwards was not achieved with his
efforts to undercut Kerry and did not shine a good light
on Bush.

Cheney acted like the man in charge in contrast to Bush, who looked
like the house idiot.

Hopefully, the force is with us.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:05 PM
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1. Most are still getting the edge to Edwards or calling it a 'tie' nt
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:15 PM
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15. good stuff
Guys, have you ever seen a candidate get a veep to agree with him in a debate and make the president look like an extremist on the gay marriage commendment issue?

Edwards did just that.



Please hit this poll, it;s big one. Im not allowed to make new posts for whatever reason so im posting it here:

http://wgnradio.com/polls/polls.cfm?poll=5
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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:05 PM
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2. No, I disagree. I think JE's response was very good...
... when he said something to the effect that a long resume doesn't equate to good judgement. I'd sharpen the retort a bit further, if I could: "Look where all your vaunted experience has gotten us." :grr:
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:06 PM
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3.  Cheney's victory?
Which one? Did they play a round of golf or something because I know you aren't talking about the debate!
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:06 PM
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4. Gimme a hit of that crack pipe you're smoking...
You did not watch the same debate the rest of us did.

:crazy:
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shrub chipper Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:08 PM
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5. Doesn't JE have as much government experience as * did
when he ran in 2000?
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:08 PM
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6. Speaking of "Lack of experience in government"....
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:09 PM
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9. heehee. Is that pic for real?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:09 PM
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7. bull****
Go hawk this crap somewhere else.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:09 PM
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8. So what has Cheney done with all his experience? Nothing for us!
Who really gives a shit about all his experience, he is only using it to hurt us.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:10 PM
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10. Cheney is very experienced in the old Soviet party lies. But he lost.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:10 PM
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11. What about Ahnold?
When they want to put somebody in with no experience, they call it an "outsider" asset. When are people going to learn to stop repeating Republican spin??
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:10 PM
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12. why do you feel the need to continue to attack our candidates with RW
talking points?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:13 PM
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13. Nonesense, My Friend
Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 11:14 PM by The Magistrate
Cheney's burbling about experience was weak and childish.

The wretch's experience with voting against Head Start and the Dr. King holiday, with trading by subterfuge with the nation's enemies in Iran and Libya, and with lying about the connection of Hussein to the attacks of September 11 is something the country will be very happy to dispense with. A creature with that sort of experience belongs not in high office but beneath a damned dirty jail....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDSD!"
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:19 PM
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20. WOW--VERY WELL SAID!
He does belong beneath a dirty jail ---all he told us tonight was a pack of more lies.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:41 PM
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31. Thank You, Sir
Every word is sincerely meant. I love my people and my country deeply, and this bunch of cheap thieves is the most anti-American crew of political thugs I have seen in my lifetime. They aim, quite openly, to destroy the country we all know and love, and replace with something modeled on the third wold, by driving down the wages paid to workers and extracting the savings of the middlingly prosperous to concventrate every possible cent into the pockets of the wealthiest fraction of the population.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:14 PM
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14. Cheney and Bush have "experience" but an abysmal record
I don't think Cheney scored any points for "experience". Most Americans don't like the "experience" of what they are seeing coming out of Iraq, especially now that they know Bush and Cheney lied to them, and continue to lie to them.

Cheney can call it experience. I call it a long national nightmare.
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:15 PM
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16. Raya, I beg to differ. Edwards had a 99% voting record prior to 2003.
He never missed a vote when it would have changed the outcome. Where are you getting your so-called polling information regarding re-election to senate? Isn't it kinda dumb for someone who isn't polling well for Senate to give up and run for President? Edwards has the same experience that Lincoln had when he became President - so take that to the bank!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:16 PM
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17. Nader, right?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:18 PM
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18. Forchrissakes.
I'm no Edwards fan but Edwards won, solidly. I thought he was great. Cheney alternated between Mr. Evil and Mr. Boring. The polls show most people felt Edwards won. What are you worried about?

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:28 PM
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27. I'm with you on that assessment.
There is nothing Edwards could have done in the debate to alter the amount of experience that he actually has, which isn't much, but I thought that he performed very strongly and credibly and came off looking like a credible leader. I thought that Cheney looked pitiful.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:18 PM
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19. This view has no actual merit
It assumes mistakenly that what that old bastard was saying is true.
This seems to be the problem with the nay sayers here.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:20 PM
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21. Guys check out the sig in this poster's profile
very telling indeed.

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Zorbet55 Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:31 PM
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28. You're right. I think raya wants to marry G. Bush/D. Cheney
Now she needs to go ahead and pick one of them. She can't have them both at the same time.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:49 PM
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33. Profile gone?
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mellowinman Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:20 PM
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22. WE'RE DOOMED!!!! DOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!
Every time I come to this forum, I find a post by you saying that.

Why not just vote for Bush?

I'm sure you'd sleep easier at night.

DDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!

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indyjones1938 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:20 PM
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23. What Cheney victory?
CBSNews poll: Edwards soundly beat Cheney among the undecideds. Over 50% of undecideds now view Edwards more favorably, comapred to only 29% for Cheney.

ABCNews poll: Kerry/Edwards GAINED support while Bush/Cheney LOST support (2% swing).

Every single online poll (WSJ, FOXNews, MSNBC, CNN) have Edwards beating Cheney in a landslide.

You're an Edwards hater. Always have been, always will be. Like so many others at DU. It pisses you off that Edwards was able to stand up to such a powerful, evil and shameless opponent like Cheney, on Cheney's own turf, and still come out on top. I guess this rivalry stems from the Howard Dean days. You're just jealous that your man didn't get the #1 slot, or even the #2 slot. Sour grapes.

Sorry Raya. Edwards was focused on the undecideds tonight. Cheney was only focused on the base. It was the toughest, most heated debate I have ever seen, and Edwards did incredibly well given the deck was stack against him a hundred times over. Kerry had it far easier in the first debate.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:21 PM
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24. "a long resume (in government) does not substitute for good judgment"
JE got in the similarity of votes between DC and JK on eliminating those defense system the busheviks hold against JK in their ads; JE also got in the VERY CORE of Cheney's BLACK SOUL about his votes AGAINST head start, etc...
Too bad more people don't know about the EXPERIENCE that Cheney has in the PNAC department and his "founding" neo-con status. Yes, Cheney is indeed Snidley Porkface.
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:22 PM
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25. That's what WINS for Edwards
A fresh face, with fresh ideas, and charm compared to a guy who won't even defend his daughter against the man he works for.

Cheney is a dinosaur - Edwards is a breath of fresh air.

That come through loud and clear and won the day for Edwards. To the voters. Press whores, on the other hand, saw the politics. The voters were looking for something entirely different - fresh ideas.

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Zorbet55 Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:26 PM
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26. right, raya. and we have a balanced budget too.
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:36 PM
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29. A draw with some points to Cheney is GOOD. Let's be real.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:40 PM
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30. No, YOU be real..
Cheney, according to people outside of our little universe gave it to Edwards because Cheney was morose, slouchy, boring, mumbly, and mean. Edwards was energetic, articulate and positive. He did not wilt, did not stoop to Cheney's level. One comment from Cheney about Edwards' experience and you give it to Cheney? Cheney lied about not meeting Edwards.. and lied thru the whole thing.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 11:44 PM
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32. I'm not a big Edwards fan, but I don't think his inexperience
is all that much of an issue. George Bush has lowered the bar for the presidency, for one thing, for all time, proving it's not rocket science. So we know Edwards has the intellectual capacity to handle the job. But Edwards also showed by his aggression against Cheney that he has a considerable amount of guts.

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