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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:04 AM
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Here it is OCTOBER SUPRISE!
Dr. Ray on KGO just broke the story that Bush wants all the networks to give him an hour in Primetime this week. Story was leaked minutes ago.


Waz it gonna be George?

Osama?

Cheney leaving to be replaced by Rudy G?

This might get ugly.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:10 AM
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1. He just wants a staged media lovefest
...to compensate for the meltdown he experienced when debating Kerry.

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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:36 AM
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11. this is no different than the Repukes
using local county and city money to fly their administration GODS all over the country to private, loyalty statementized, love fests on the tax payers dole.
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:13 AM
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2. If he does this...
the Kerry campaign should come down on him hard. It's a blatant abuse of power to bully the networks into giving you a one hour rebuttal without giving your opponent equal time. Pathetic, really.
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:19 AM
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3. This just shows they see the writing on the wall
2 debates and they havent laid a glove on JK or JE.

Rove is in freakout mode.

Whatever the news is it will be without Kerry being there.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:21 AM
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4. There will be no surprises
It's his make-over for last week's debate and his one-up on this week's. They don't have Osama-in-a-box, the news would have leaked. They won't replace Cheney, it's the ultimate flipflop. There's little he can say or do that won't be seen as a transparent, desperate attempt to hang onto his residency. I predict he'll announce the distribution of gold dollars at next Sunday's church services.
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deckerd Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:22 AM
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5. Freepers Think Positive Job #s and/or Evidence Saddam/Al Qaeda Link
From Daly Thoughts conservative weblog:

This means more than the latest polls

President Bush, stung by the erosion of his lead over Sen. John Kerry in post debate polls, has abruptly scheduled a major speech for tomorrow in hopes of halting Mr. Kerry's momentum.

In a rare, last-minute alteration to the presidential schedule, Mr. Bush has scrapped a planned talk on medical liability and instead will give what the White House called a "significant speech" about the two central issues of the campaign -- the war on terrorism and the economy...

There are two things this tells me.

1) The Bush campaign does believe that things have tightened. They would not be changing things if not.

2) The Bush campaign still believes that they have the advantage. The speech is to be delivered in Pennsylvania, a Gore 2000 state. Had there been significant concern that their advantage had completely evaporated, they would have scrambled to change to Ohio.


Comments: (from RW bloggers)


11. Expect big news during the speech.

Comment by Great Anonymous Fiend -- 10/5/2004 @ 10:53 am


12.Perhaps a sneak peek at friday's jobs #s and talk of operations planned for Fallujah?

Comment by Richard M -- 10/5/2004 @ 10:55 am


13. Bush will talk up jobs without specific mention of Friday's number, as he only has estimates

(which are very positive).

However, I suspect there is good news on another front.

Comment by Great Anonymous Fiend — 10/5/2004 @ 10:58 am


14. Do you think news on OBL, or are you alluding to something else?

Comment by Richard M -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:00 am


16. Yeah, he just saved $500 on his auto insurance.

Comment by Uncle Sam -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:06 am


19. Richard M., I am not thinking OBL, but you have the right idea.

Comment by Great Anonymous Fiend -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:14 am


20. Zarqawi, then? It would make more sense, I suppose, if it's an Iraq speech.

Comment by Richard M -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:21 am

21.Richard M., let's play the guessing game then. I think Zarqawi, Zawahiri, et al are possibilities.

This article contains a hint as well.

http://www.nysun.com/article/2673

AND there was a CNS news story from yesterday that was very interesting.

Bush/Cheney has decided that they want to reset the stage for the townhall debate. They don't want it to be about stem cells, as Kerry has pushed this week. Most of the comments about this speech have focused on looking back at the Thursday debate to stop the slide. I am convinced, however, that Rove, et al, never look back but only forward.

Comment by Great Anonymous Fiend -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:26 am


22. Don't think it's Zarqawi. They haven't done any reconaissance, I don't think, so although they bombed Fallujah, they don't know that they have him. Of course, he could have been in Samarra.

There have supposedly been alot of Iranians captured in Samarra. We should blockade Iran until they stop trying to destabalize the country. Of course that would cause oil prices to skyrocket.

Comment by brianb -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:27 am


23. Good point, Brianb. Iran is a possible angle, though doubtful.

Comment by Great Anonymous Fiend -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:31 am


26. "President Bush, stung by the erosion of his lead over Sen. John Kerry in post debate polls, has abruptly scheduled a major speech for tomorrow in hopes of halting Mr. Kerry's momentum."

4 weeks to go until the election, and this reporter is talking about NATIONAL polls? Kerry does not have the lead in a single solitary Bush 2000 state, but Bush currently leads in the Gore 2000 states of Iowa, Wisconsin, and New Mexico. Bush and Kerry are tied in the Gore 2000 states of Michigan, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania.

Comment by The Third Man -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:40 am


28. Shhhh, Third Man. Keep your voice down. We don't want THEM to hear that.

Comment by Great Anonymous Fiend -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:42 am


29. It couldn't possibly be something like Zarqawi. That's not news that can be scheduled for release.

Comment by Tom Ewall -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:43 am


32. Yes, Tom, it can. It is likely that Zarqawi and Zawahiri will be detained for a period before any announcement, so that all leads can be exhausted before news of their capture reaches other terrorists.

Comment by Great Anonymous Fiend -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:48 am


33. OK, I'll play left-wing conspiracy maker:

One of last week's clearest soundbites: "Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time." Tonight, Edwards will undoubtedly continue the theme, trying to get Cheney to admit "mistakes" in Iraq.

Yesterday, CNS News reveals that it has obtained 42 recently translated documents -- verified by a knowledgable Clinton official as authentic -- that show that Sadaam had Al-Qaeda ties and talked about WMD.

They are confident enough in the documents to invite anyone who wants to come to view the documents at their offices and see for themselves that they are true. No confirmation as of yet with the White House.

Now, we hear of a major foreign policy speech from Bush. Could this be the unveiling of definitive Iraq-Al-Qaeda ties? Does the president spend tomorrow revealing these documents and making the case that the war was right? Could we spend the next week talking about these documents and watching Kerry backtrack?

Hmmmm. We'll see.

Comment by Keith -- 10/5/2004 @ 11:48 am


59. Bush's speech will be a detailed critique of what a foreign policy/national security kook Kerry is. At least I hope so. I suspect that the Bushies have finally realized that it was Zell Miller that gave him at least 50% of his convention bounce. That's why the howling was so intense after Miller's speech. Another example; Sean Hannity pounded a Kerry campaign guy last night about some of Kerry's past ideas (like a nuclear freeze) and he refused to stay through the commercial for the second segment. I pray that the Bushies know that Kerry will fall apart if they start to aggressively and ceaselessly assail his history on foregin policy/national security.

Comment by jim -- 10/5/2004 @ 2:03 pm
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:47 AM
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14. The NY Sun is an extreme right wing rag. I think they give it away.
"Capability" is now the same as "possession"? They didn't have mustard gas. They could make it in six months if they felt like it? MUSTARD GAS???

Anyway, what the report DOES say is that Saddam wasn't producing nuclear weapons and didn't have any chemical ones. For this we went to war?
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deckerd Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:25 AM
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6. Where in hell is Kerry's October Surprise? Kerry's must come out first n/t
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secular_warrior Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:25 AM
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7. that's BULLSHIT. The Dems BETTER put up a fight. Equal time.
If the Dems don't fight this they may as well just pack it in right now.

There is NO WAY Bush should get PRIME TIME.

He can do as many daytime speeches as he wants, but to use the networks to CAMPAIGN is beyond the pale.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:47 AM
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15. Have the networks agreed?
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demzilla Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:25 AM
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8. He'll probably announce he's cancelling the election nt
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:31 AM
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9. Wouldnt put anything past them with 4 weeks to go!
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:36 AM
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10. my thought is--
what if he announces war with Iran? Or even North Korea? I don't put that past him...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:38 AM
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12. forgot to add that it kept going through my mind tonight
...that Cheney knows something we didn't know so he started pulling back halfway through the debate, almost like a non-participant. Maybe it is this press conference. The debate seemed like it got to be a waste of his time for some reason.
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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:46 AM
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13. Heres The Story from Washington Times



Bush readies 'significant speech'


By Bill Sammon
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

President Bush, stung by the erosion of his lead over Sen. John Kerry in post debate polls, has abruptly scheduled a major speech for tomorrow in hopes of halting Mr. Kerry's momentum.
In a rare, last-minute alteration to the presidential schedule, Mr. Bush has scrapped a planned talk on medical liability and instead will give what the White House called a "significant speech" about the two central issues of the campaign — the war on terrorism and the economy.
The president is said to be eager to rebut Mr. Kerry's attacks on such issues, especially those that came during Thursday's presidential debate.
"There has been an attempt by the president's opponent to launch false attacks and mislead the American people on these big priorities," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters aboard Air Force One. "There are some big differences facing the American people, and the president wants to highlight those differences."
The Kerry campaign was delighted that the Massachusetts Democrat has forced the president into reactive mode.
Kerry spokesman Phil Singer ridiculed Mr. Bush's decision to give a major speech, which will be delivered in Wilkes-Barre, Pa.
"George Bush has spent the last few months resorting to half-truths on the stump. Now he's going the whole way," he said. "A president needs to be forthcoming and straightforward about his polices, and if the last few days are any indication, Wednesday's speech will be neither."
Meanwhile, Mr. Bush's re-election strategists, reeling from a wave of weekend polls that showed Mr. Kerry pulling even with the president, were heartened by four new surveys, released yesterday, that show Mr. Bush still ahead by an average of five points.
Still, Bush officials tried to appear stoic about the new numbers by ABC News, the Pew Research Center, Rasmussen Reports and George Washington University.
"We don't dance in the end zone, and we don't cry in our beer," said Matthew Dowd, chief strategist for the Bush campaign. "This race is basically even, which is where we thought it was going to be."
Even Republicans who were alarmed by the erosion of the president's lead in national polls took comfort in electoral-vote tallies that show Mr. Bush leading by a wide margin.
The nonpartisan Hotline, which is published online by National Journal magazine, yesterday said Mr. Bush was leading in 31 states that have a total of 292 electoral votes, or 22 more than the 270 necessary for victory. Mr. Kerry was leading in 16 states that have a total of 200 electoral votes.
When the tally is narrowed to include only states in which a candidate's lead is outside the margin of error, Mr. Bush has locked up 22 states, with a total of 215 electoral votes. Mr. Kerry has locked up seven states, with a total of 119 electoral votes, according to the Hotline.
Republicans also took comfort in the internal dynamics of national polls that, in the aggregate, favored Mr. Kerry.
Gallup, for instance, released a poll over the weekend that showed both candidates tied at 49 percent after Thursday's debate. Before the debate, Mr. Bush was ahead by eight points.
But even in the newer survey, the president had a 17-point lead over Mr. Kerry on the issue of the war against terrorism. He also retained leads over the Democrat in the handling of Iraq and the ability to be commander in chief.
On the other hand, Mr. Kerry gained the advantage on the economy, which is expected to figure prominently in the remaining two presidential debates. The margin of Americans who feel Mr. Kerry won the debate has grown from 53 percent to 37 percent immediately after the face-off, to 57 percent to 25 percent over the weekend, after widespread media coverage crediting the Democrat with the better performance.
Bush officials were pleased that the poll showed that likely voters, by a margin of 48 percent to 41 percent, expect Mr. Kerry to win the next debate. They hoped that would lower expectations for Mr. Bush, who had been favored to win the first debate, only to come up short in the expectations game.
The ABC News poll showed Mr. Bush enjoying an 18-point lead over Mr. Kerry on the issue of terrorism, which consumed much of Thursday's foreign-policy debate.
The Pew Research Center poll, which was conducted after the debate, gave Mr. Bush a 25-point advantage on the question of which candidate is a strong leader. Furthermore, 48 percent of respondents said Mr. Kerry changes his mind too much to be a good commander in chief.
The latest Rasmussen Reports poll shows that although Mr. Kerry gained a point after the debate, Mr. Bush still leads by three points. The survey was based on 3,000 interviews since the debate.
Meanwhile, a poll released last night showed the president five points ahead of Mr. Kerry in the battleground state of New Hampshire. The poll was sponsored by television station WMUR and the University of New Hampshire.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:57 AM
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16. Someone has to point out that Bush behaves like a WEAK leader.
Strong leaders of strong nations don't have to go to war. A belligerent response, like a schoolyard bully or a cornered rat, is always the act of the one who feels weakest, NOT strongest. Listen to the fear of every little thing that permeates Republican and especially Bush speech. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear is not strong. Fear is terrified. Fear is hysterical. Fear is the internal feeling of helpless weakness.

Bush is a coward and he behaved like a coward when he invaded a nation he believed too weak to fight back. If he wasn't such a disgusting racist, he would have known these people would fight. They're macho to the bone and they have some very cruel and historic customs to call on in such emergencies. If he'd ever read a history book, he would have known who he was dealing with.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:06 AM
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19. GIVE HIM 5 MIN. & LET THE CHEAP FCK SPEND OF HIS WAR CHEST ON THE OTHER 55
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:03 AM
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17. An hour? Okay. One condition. No notes. Otherwise, no deal.
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 05:16 AM by henslee
And no notes means no teleprompter and no earpiece. I'll tell you one thing. IT BETTER BE GOOD. Frankly, after the adrenalin rush of watching pitbulls like Kerry, Edwards and Cheney.... who the fck is gonna watch this alcoholic turd? IT BETTER BE GOOD.

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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:06 AM
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18. Who is this guy that broke the story?
Is he getting this confused with the major campaign speech Bush is giving or has Bush really requested an hour from the networks in Primetime?
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:19 AM
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20. If he gets an hour then Kerry gets an hour as well!
This is bullshit! I will take the day off from work just to call, write, and just basically hound the networks if they give him the hour and don't give Kerry a hour as well.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:22 AM
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21. Big raid on Zarqawi safe house, Wed. morn. in Samara. (link) edited
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 05:26 AM by henslee
It was on google... link was a China Newspaper. Not enuf details to post but could be it. Link.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/06/content_2057112.htm
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