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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:17 AM
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William Saletan of Slate details Edwards ass kicking of Cheney!
This folks is a mighty fine read!

Cheney and Edwards apparently went into this debate with different theories of what it was for. When moderator Gwen Ifill asked them to discuss their differences, Cheney said "the most important consideration in picking a vice president" was having "somebody who could take over." Edwards answered the same question by outlining Kerry's platform, virtues, and accomplishments. Cheney seemed to think most viewers were tuning in to judge the vice presidential nominees. Edwards seemed to think they were tuning in to hear about the presidential nominees.

If Cheney guessed right on that question, he probably won. But if he guessed wrong—and I suspect he did—Edwards kicked his expletive. If you watched this debate as an uninformed voter, you heard an avalanche of reasons to vote for Kerry. You heard 23 times that Kerry has a "plan" for some big problem or that Bush doesn't. You heard 10 references to Halliburton, with multiple allegations of bribes, no-bid contracts, and overcharges. You heard 13 associations of Bush with drug or insurance companies. You heard four attacks on him for outsourcing. You heard again and again that he opposed the 9/11 commission and the Department of Homeland Security, that he "diverted" resources from the fight against al-Qaida to the invasion of Iraq, and that while our troops "were on the ground fighting, lobbied the Congress to cut their combat pay." You heard that Kerry served in Vietnam and would "double the special forces." You heard that Bush is coddling the Saudis, that Cheney "cut over 80 weapons systems," and that the administration has no air-cargo screening or unified terrorist watch list.

As the debate turned to domestic policy, you heard that we've lost 1.6 million net jobs and 2.7 million net manufacturing jobs under Bush. You heard that he's the first president in 70 years to lose jobs. You heard that 4 million more people live in poverty, and 5 million have lost their health insurance. You heard that the average annual premium has risen by $3,500. You heard that we've gone from a $5 trillion surplus to a $3 trillion debt. You heard that a multimillionaire sitting by his swimming pool pays a lower tax rate than a soldier in Iraq. You heard that Bush has underfunded No Child Left Behind by $27 billion. You heard that Kerry, unlike Bush, would let the government negotiate "to get discounts for seniors" and would let "prescription drugs into this country from Canada." You heard that at home and abroad, Bush offers "four more years of the same."

Most Democrats, including Kerry, duck and cover when Republicans bring up values. Not Edwards. He knows the language and loves to turn it against the GOP. The word "moral" was used twice in this debate. The word "value" was used three times. All five references came from Edwards. He denounced the "moral" crime of piling debt on our grandchildren. He called the African AIDS epidemic and the Sudan genocide "huge moral issues." When Ifill asked him about gay marriage, he changed the subject to taxes. "We don't just value wealth, which they do," said Edwards. "We value work in this country. And it is a fundamental value difference between them and us."
http://slate.msn.com/id/2107808/
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:20 AM
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1. Nice!
Thanks for posting this, trumad.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:23 AM
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2. Yessir! On that screen, with real people, Edwards was a winner!
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:31 AM
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3. indeed! John Kerry's pick for a veep was and is OUTSTANDING . . .
John Edwards loves to debate. You could see that. Give Edwards a cause and he's off to meet it head-on. No problem. No problem whatsoever for this well-trained professional debater. One decent guy!

John Edwards will make an excellent Veep! And a solid president if ever called upon to do so.




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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 06:00 AM
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4. What did he mean "COULD" take over??? Cheney IS the president!
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 06:04 AM by BlueEyedSon
LOL!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 06:22 AM
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5. kick
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