Tweety's Blatant Whoring

[Jack_Dawson]

I didn't want to write this last night, because I wanted to absorb the alcohol that was fueling my anger. Having slept on it and watching other analysis' of the debate (CNN, NBC), I still cannot fathom MSNBC's over-the-top shilling for Cheney. The whole thing seemed slightly...predetermined for lack of a better word.

Chris Matthews, a somewhat schizophrenic and unpredictable host to begin with, was practically jumping out of his seat and serenading Cheney. In addition, it appears the right-wingers clearly had a little "chat" with Scarborough, because his fair & balanced analysis from last week evaporated entirely.

That Newsweek dude pretty much goes whichever way the wind blows, and Andrea Mitchell is just nuts.

I don't know WTF debate these people were watching, but I thought Edwards clearly won on points. It wasn't a slam dunk like last week because Cheney actually has a brain, but I thought Edwards more than held his own. Thoughts?

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[Jon8503]

2. You and I see it exactly the same. I am like you I cannot figure

why they were so blatant about thier bias last night. It was worse
than Fox. They were worse than Fox.

Andrea Mitchell doesn't talk much better than Bush but she is so blatant a republican, don't know why she would be on any unbiased panel or be a newscaster. She always tries to slant things in Bush's favor.

Scarborough is who he is.

Ron Reagan is the smartest and most independent one of the bunch.

I remember his comments after the Kerry debate when he said all the polls strongly say Kerry won but the media is trying to spin it their way.

[Lex]

3. I feel the same way. And Tweety looked seriously foolish

last night.

I think many people thought Cheney would fold like Bush did in the first debate, but that is just unrealistic.

Edwards looked energetic, sharp, and in control.

Cheney looked old, pale, and whispered out his answers with a scowl.

I have no idea what Matthews and his band of idiots were watching but clearly they were out of the loop. Matthews' judgment is incredibly poor, it seems.

[Jack_Dawson]

4. Someone said Tweety looked sheepish this morning?

Was he interviewed someplace? By whom? Link?

[Shopaholic]

6. Salon.Com

nailed Tweety on this. They nailed the entire MSNBC panel and asked them what debate were they watching anyway!

[Democrat 4 Ever]

15. Andrea Mitchell is married to Alan Greenspan

who has been licking Bush/Cheney's boots since they stole the election. Anything she says comes from the biased attitude that "I'm rich and let's keep it that way." That or the botox injections have seized her brain.

I wrote this letter to MSNBC and Tweety this morning -

Re: Chris Matthews corrections:

Someone should point out to Chris Matthews that CNN has been running a video tape showing Cheney and Edwards together at a prayer breakfast. They were together for several hours, at a prayer breakfast. Cheney lied. Again. Evidently the prayer breakfast didn't "take" with Cheney. He still thinks telling the truth is just a suggestion. You might, also, like to point out that Cheney refuses to meet with Democratic senators. He meets weekly with Republican senators but will not meet with Democrats.

Matthews is going to continue appearing silly if he thinks that is a pivotal point in the debate and it was so quickly and easily disproved. Elizabeth Edwards set Cheney straight on the stage of the debate immediately after the debate. Cheney's comment? "Sorry." Jeez, his one pointed arrow in the whole debate and everyone knows it is a lie - except Matthews. Time to go to the videotape.

Matthews shrill, biased support of the VP's performance last night was pathetic and very telling. Cheney lied, repeatedly, consistently and blatantly and yet, Matthews let Cheney slide in his post debate spin. Edwards wiped the floor with Cheney just by pointing out this administration's failures and lies and somehow you think Cheney's demeanor was more important than the substance of what he was saying.

MSNBC might want to find another host that has an ounce of journalistic integrity. Ron Reagan would be an excellent start to getting MSNBC back on track to honest, unbiased reporting. May not always agree with Reagan but at least he strives to see both sides of an issue. Matthews is a sycophant for this White House.

Sincerely,

[arbusto_baboso]

5. One of the networks (forget which one) had an interesting snap poll...

which showed that Edwards, who had the most favorable rating amongst the four person on the tickets, polled as having a MORE positive rating among MORE THAN HALF of those polled after last night's debate.

Edwards may not have won the debate, but since it is clear that Edwards proved himself as qualified to be "a heartbeat away" from the White House, by that accounting, he was the victor.

[farmbo]

7. Tweety must have ducked out for cocktails after 20 minutes...

...because he certainly didn't see the same debate the rest of the country saw.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

8. When Fox 'News' and Andrew Sullivan call it for Edwards then....

you know Edwards won. Also, Sully said that Edwards obliterated Cheney. Go figure!

[dennis4868]

9. The entire....

time after the debate Tweety would show highlights of Cheney's strong points during the debate and leave out Edwards strong points/statements from the debate. They never showed Edwards looking directly at Cheney and saying, "America cannot take 4 more years of your experience."

I was shocked how immediately after the debate Tweety was jumpoing up and down saying that Edwards got crushed by Cheney but yet after the Kerry/Bush debate, which Kerry clearly won, Tweetysaid I dont want to say who won the debate because we have to talk this one out.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

10. I couldn't believe Scarborough last night

I wish I had the exact quote, but it was right after the debate and the "Tweety Expert Panel" analysis...he said something along the lines of "Cheney did what he was supposed to do tonight, which was to demonstrate why John Kerry is not fit to lead this country." He kind of spit the comment out quickly and no one reacted to / commented on it...but he was straining at the bit to immediately get into the "Kerry sucks" talking points.

Agree completely on Andrea Mitchell. When she filled in for Matthews on Hardball, a day or two after the Michelle Malkin debacle, her political stripes became pretty clear. She blows, she really, really blows. A LOT. She's like Matthews and Scarborough without the charm.
---sarcasm---



:grr:

PS: She blows.

[Riptide]

16. Agreed, Andrea was awful last night...

She was whoring it up! She could not wait to say that Cheney, with his vast experience buried Edwards. Her partisanship was so obvious.

When Ron Reagan tried to call it as "no clear winner" Tweety yelled back, "Well, maybe only to you!"

I was so depressed that I turned it off and logged onto DU. I was thrilled to hear that others were being a little less whorish.

[hlthe2b]

18. Considering she is married to a walking cadaver, is it any surprise,

that she'd be similarly infatuated with "death incarnate" Cheney?

[The empressof all]

11. He's totally out of touch with the "real" world

I think he's now living in his own little pundit land in his brain. Poor guy probably doesn't know which way he's going at any given moment. Perhaps he needs a long vacation.

[DeepModem Mom]

17. It's isolated, arrogant Beltway/Nantucket ignorance...

I posted before, in Tweety's world, Cheney is a BIG man, a scary man -- and scary's not good on TV. Edwards connected to real people through the TV screen. Tweety and his ilk know no real people.

[seabeyond]

12. sent email this morning.........................

i am coming to the conclusion that these two men, Kerry and Edwards, can move into position in white house in ease, with intelligence and sincerity and honesty. being female, i saw an Edwards that easily out did Cheney. not because Cheney didn't have facts or could only repeat a few talking points he says over and over on campaign stump like bush thurs., Cheney was able to talk coherently and knew his subject. this from the beginning is what turned me off the president. for our vice president to have the command over events and what is happening in our government so beyond our president is disgusting to me. this put me in anger from the beginning, knowing how the people are duped with a puppet of president. putting Cheney next to bush last Thursday, for me, says so much. and it is a huge negative for me.

within ten minutes of the debate i saw a courage and respect and sincerity in Edwards. i was able to sit back and listen to what both said in comfort. having watched the political scene obsessively for the last 6 years i was able to see Cheney's lies easily. a liar doesn't win the debate. a liar loses.

continually i watched chris Matthews say he doesn't understand Kerry's position on the war and his vote. this leaves me gasping every time i hear it. my 9 year old understands Kerry's vote to war and 87 billion vote. again, i think this is a misrepresentation of the media to promote the flip flopping Kerry they have bought from Rove, and i don't put much value in this feeding of the public. if Chris is truly having a tough time grasping Kerry's consistency on this stance from beginning to now, i personally would be happy to draw diagrams, speak slowly and use hand gestures to help him out

bottom-line: Edwards held his own, spoke from the heart in sincerity and came out the winner in this debate. Chris and fellow talkers immediately professed a winner cause of their love for the ball grabbin, knuckle draggin male perspective, the thing, that male is not the only one in this nation who will be voting and regardless the importance they put on themselves, a stronger majority has voice too.

Edwards won, Edwards was a draw, Edwards held his own,.................i don't care, but Cheney?, he didn't win. no matter how much Chris Andréa and Joe spin it

respectfully

[vi5]

13. My thoughts are, stop watching that garbage...

Watch it on cspan and formulate your own opinion and be secure and strong in that opinion. Ignore what cable news says. That crap is about as reflective of the real world as professional wresting.

[yellowcanine]

14. Tweety has a history of bizarre debate analysis. He declared Quayle the

winner over Lloyd Bentson in 1988 - or was it over Gore in 1992? My brain is fried this morning.

[BlueEyedSon]

19. "somebody put a horses head in Joey's bed" - LOL

As for the whores, I have to give extra special kudos to Joe Scarborough for the biggest slurpy Cheney blowjobs of the night, although it was difficult to choose from among his colleagues. But apparently, somebody put a horses head in Joey's bed after his little "mistake" in calling the debate for Kerry last week because he really went the extra mile tonight.

[seabeyond]

21. later in the night joe was knocked off his horse

a couple women journalist came on. one very young, smart articulate and fast talking. they didnt allow joe momentum of cheney won. they took the male panel on. and it made joe question himself later in the show. the first chink

polls, reaction this morning. someone saying tweety looking lost this morning.

oh ya..........this is what needs to be done. we have the voice, we speak out, we will be heard. more so than every before

[HFishbine]

20. To Tweety's Credit

Not to dismiss any of the proper complaints above, but Matthews did go for the throat with Alen Ginsberg on Cheney's lie about never having connected 9/11 and Iraq. Ginsberg was trying to spin it and Matthews would have none of it, he insisted on presenting the truth -- he didn't give an inch. That was impressive.

[seabeyond]

22. ya, husband so excited about that take down

he was jazzed. as soon as i saw gingsberg i turned the channel. didnt see it

[seabeyond]

23. double post

[rog]

25. Same thing on the Today Show this morning.

Matthews was interviewed by Ann Curry, who was subtlely (well ... maybe it wasn't so subtle) trying to push Cheney. Matthews was dogged ... wouldn't let go. Curry said something like, "OK ... let's say that maybe he lied, but does it really MATTER at this point?" Matthews said, "It matters IF WE GET THE WORD OUT. Our job is not just to report what they said, but to point out when they're not telling the truth." He went on for a few more words about how the administration was stretching the truth.

The interview was WAY too short, and I don't think Curry was prepared for Matthews' take on this debate. I think she was expecting a partner to gang up on Edwards.

Oops.

.rog.

[Jack_Dawson]

26. Ann's a Freeper??? Say it ain't so!

I love Ann.

[gauguin57]

24. Rumors swirled about Tweety running for Senate in Pennsylvania.

... he had talked about running against Specter (as a Dem - HA) ... well, I'm taking notes. If this a-hole EVER tries to represent me in the Senate, I'll spend my last drop of blood to see that he's soundly defeated!

[Old and In the Way]

27. This was classic media biased news commentary at it's finest.

Really, when we re-install the fairness doctrine, this could be the prima facia evidence why it's need. Or it could be used as a casestudy in Journalism School on why too much political inbreeding is bad for a news network who wishes to be taken seriously.

What I found it most interesting was the pace in which they jumped out of the gate. The final applause was not yet over when Chris was prepared to crown Cheney the world heavyweight champ of all time. Chris immediately infected Scarborough with his viral analysis and then Andrea succumbed. They fed off their own shared worldview and political inclinations.....and all pretty much jumped off together.

As Cheney's "facts" became disputed and disproved and the online poll results (particularly, MSNBC's own) became known, a curious thing happened, Chris morphed into a objective reporter who started to challenge every Republican's CW....even gave a C/B supporter in the audience a hard time on his talking points about Iraq/911/AQ.

I'm telling, ya, this guy has some classic bi-polar personality symptoms....they aren't debilitationg, but it makes for a "which Chris will show up next" subtext in his show.

They just don't get it....this "debate" cemented people's opinions about this administration and they liked what they saw in John Edwards. People want Bush/Cheney out and Kerry/Edwards in....corporate news spinners opinions be damned.