They sent 40,000 [US] troops into Iraq without the body armor they needed.

[redqueen]

My favorite of Edwards' statements in the debate.

Makes me wonder how repugs can continue to use the talking point about how K/E voted against the $87 billion for the troops for supplies and whatnot (and this even after Bush threatened to VETO the $87 billion if he didn't get his way!)... when you know it's going to be pointed out that THEY SENT THEM INTO HARMS WAY UNPREPARED! No planning - for either the invasion OR an exit strategy. No WMD's... these guys are unbelievable.

[donco6]

1. We've forgotten a lot of the early stuff.

How the supply lines were too thin and even food was getting short. No armor for Humvees. Not enough of the type of weaponry you need for guerilla warfare. Bad intel. On and on. He made a good point that resounds with people.

[redqueen]

2. I'm so glad he made it

I hope it gets more notice... my LTTE's have never been picked... but this seems like a good subject to try again with. :)

[donco6]

4. Keep trying!

LTTEs are published as a percentage of responses (at least, in ETHICAL papers they are), so it does matter what side you support when you write.

[redqueen]

3. just one kick

someone else had to like this part!

[ClassWarrior]

6. I loved it RQ! It was a thing of beauty.

I intend to make this the subject of my LTTEs.

Long time no see, by the way...

:hi:

[redqueen]

8. Yay!

Me too... I was SO happy when he said that.

I've been overwhelmed by things lately... good to see you! :hi:

[ClassWarrior]

9. Good to see you too!

I know what you mean about being overwhelmed.

Hey, your icon looks familiar - what is it?

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[redqueen]

10. It's a band logo

Ozomatli... they're really helping to soothe me lately. Especially Dejame en Paz. :)

[ClassWarrior]

13. Sounds interesting...

Latin music?

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[redqueen]

14. Some

Latin / hip hop / rock / middle eastern fusion. The ME is on this last CD, at least. (Street Signs)

Awesome stuff, IMO. :)

[ClassWarrior]

18. Sounds very cool.

I like a lot of the Putamayo discs. Sounds like much the same thing. Are you familiar with Monsoon, the mid-80's English band that did Indian-influenced rock? Sheila Chandra was the lead singer. Also very cool.

(Hmmmmm... this is starting to turn into a Lounge discussion...)

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[redqueen]

19. Yes, I think it is

I'll have to look into those you mentioned... not at all familiar.

(And yes, it is. :))

[ClassWarrior]

21. The Putamayo CDs are compilations of various world musicians.

Lounge be damned! At least we're keeping your thread kicked. :)

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[venus]

5. Good point.

I'll always remember how Cheney kept lying about the troops not having bullets under Clinton back in 2000. Made me sick.

[LynnTheDem]

12. Bullets? You mean like THIS?

3rd Army commanders felt ammunition was short before Iraq invasion, internal report says

Soldiers with the Army's 3rd Infantry Division charged into Iraq in April short of the ammunition their commanders had said was necessary to invade, according to the division's postwar evaluation of the fighting.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/11/27/national0151EST0420.DTL

Or like THIS?

Army bullets in short supply; May 2004

http://www.detnews.com/2004/business/0405/07/b03-145733.htm

[redqueen]

15. This HAS to be made more widely known

If only our side owned the media whores.

[venus]

16. For shame n/t

[ClassWarrior]

7. kick

:kick: 23.

[LynnTheDem]

11. Let's not forget they also didn't send them with enough

Food.

Water.

Rifles.

Ammunition.

Armored vehicles.

Vehicle repair parts.

Night vision goggles.

Boots.

chem/bio suits and alarms.

Amongst other vital little life-saving items.

[redqueen]

17. Exactly!

They sent them in without even enough TROOPS do do the job... I think Edwards won the debate, but if he'd said ALL THIS, I'd have been MUCH more impressed.

[rumguy]

20. fuckin' boosh