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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:11 PM
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Debunking the "first meeting myth"
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 12:44 PM by debatepro
Cheney said "... in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session. The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight."

1. Why isn’t it Cheney’s fault? Why is it Edwards fault that they never met before? As the president of the Senate and the right hand man of Bush for policy proposals to Congress. Why hadn’t Cheney taken the time to meet Edwards. If he is clearly the more responsible of the two why didn’t he take the initiative.

2. Factcheck.org – Cheney’s own source(well he said .com but he meant .org) "… Edwards escorted Elizabeth Dole when she was sworn in as North Carolina's other senator on January 8, 2003, according to Gannet News Service. Cheney administered the oath…” and on February 1, 2001, at a National Prayer Breakfast, Cheney said “…Thank you very much. Congressman Watts, Senator Edwards, friends from across America and distinguished visitors to our country from all over the world, Lynne and I are honored to be with you all this morning.” If you need visual proof the pictures are posted all over the net. http://www.dailykos.com/

3. Why would anyone want to meet Cheney? While in congress he actually voted against a National Holiday for Martin Luther King? Even more amazing Cheney voted against a resolution not a bill (a resolution is a statement really not a law) calling for the release of Nobel Peace Prize recipient Nelson Mandela. I’m sorry I don’t go out of my way to meet people with such sever public prejudices


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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:12 PM
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1. Cheney has almost exclusively met with Repubs
as they have LOCKED DEMS out of crucial policy meetings.
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CrowNotAngelGRL Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:32 PM
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8. The biggest surprise to me
with that is that he voted against MLK day! I was very surprised!!!


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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:11 PM
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11. Explanation of Cheney's vote against Mandela resolution
"Here is a man whose understanding of 'terrorism' was revealed as early as 1986, when, as a Wyoming Representative in Congress, he voted against a Congressional resolution urging the South African government to recognize the African National Congress and free political prisoner Nelson Mandela. (The vote was 245 to 177 in favor, not strong enough to override a veto from President Reagan, who famously championed apartheid South Africa as the U.S.'s closest ally in Africa.) Why did Cheney vote as he did? Because he thought the ANC and Mandela were 'terrorists.' He and his crowd indeed think lots of decent people (including many, like the ANC, on the political left) are terrorists. In 2000, as Bush's running mate, Cheney defended his position, and only very recently was Mandela's name removed from an official terrorist roster by the Bush administration."

http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp07092004.html
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:19 PM
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2. I know Edwards thought about this comeback...
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 12:20 PM by LowerManhattanite
...but as soon as Cheney said it I was hoping Edwards would say, "Well Mr. vice-president, I'm truly sorry we haven't "met" before. I've tried to call you, but the undisclosed location's phone number is unlisted".

He probably thought it was too flip, but I'm sure it went through his mind.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:23 PM
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3. Uh, let me point one more thing out....
...When Cheney told Pat Leahy to go fuck himself, it was in response to Leahy crossing the aisle after the annual class picture to ask Cheney why HE ONLY MET WITH REPUBLICANS. Leahy was ragging Cheney, and that is how Cheney responded.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:25 PM
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4. Yep, that's what I was thinking when Cheney said that.
It's no mystery why Cheney hasn't met with Edwards. Cheney's a political partisan, to the extreme.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:26 PM
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5. Those Tuesday meetings are with Repubs n/t
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:30 PM
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7. Great stuff
I am adding it to the list.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:28 PM
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6. Not to be picky..and this is a really good post,
but in your caption you have "fist" instead of first.:)
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:45 PM
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9. No I need some editing
Thanks if anyone wants to take use parts of it they can. I usually have my editor(my lovely wife) check my letters to the editor.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:49 PM
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10. Photographic proof:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:14 PM
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12. They HAD met, Cheney's a liar
Please, for God's sake, don't confuse the talking points. There isn't any time for this. If Cheney would lie about such a silly little thing, what else has he lied about? And why did he think he could get away with it? Because they've gotten away with so many lies since they took office. It's the lies...
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