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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:38 PM
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What points do you want Kerry to make tomorrow?
I would really like to see Kerry make two points on Friday night:

The Congressional War vote was a success. It accomplished exactly what it was intended to do. It got the UN to pass a resolution demanding consequences if Saddam didn’t allow the inspections, and it forced Saddam to allow intrusive inspections. Saddam was exactly where we wanted him.


Had Bush allowed that hand to play out, we could have avoided this war and severely weakened Saddam at the same time. (He would have been totally humiliated when the Arab world discovered he had been all bluster about having weapons.) But Bush lied and kept saying that Saddam wasn’t complying, which he was!! At the very least, Bush could have waited for the inspectors to provide evidence of noncompliance.

Bush continues to say (even in today’s speech) that we went into Iraq because Saddam was not in compliance with the UN. He says we went in because Saddam REFUSED TO DISARM. Bush still says this, and no one has called him on it. SADDAM HAD NO WEAPONS AND HE WAS IN COMPLIANCE. He let the inspectors in completely. He was in compliance, and he had disarmed, in 1991 as it turns out.

Bush continues to lie to the American people about this.

If Bush is called on this one, he will get really angry.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:41 PM
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1. Bump!!
Ideas?
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:43 PM
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2. If Bush is in office for four more years there will be no middle class,
no social security, no medicare, no social programs at all.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:43 PM
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3. "We gave them the keys to the car, and they drove it into a ditch."
End the flip flop nonsense, PLEASE. Stop trying to explain it.
People don't care. Just make one pithy comment about it and move ON.

It's so irritating.

Also, I hope he says something about Bush's stupid speech.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:52 PM
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14. that would be WALL, not ditch.....it was in the Tribune a week or so ago
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 05:53 PM by Gabi Hayes
I love that, BTW! it's so soundbitey, especially since they keep LYING about everything, and displaying their utter incompetence

speaking of which, the incompetence factor canNOT be understated, either

he needs to come out as strongly as possible about the LIES, as well, but I don't know what the threshhold of acceptance for calling the sitting/squattin pResident a liar would be.

I don't think he can do that, but his ADS should keep doing it, including that online one about Cheney, which they MUST put on TV, and go WIDE with it
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:50 PM
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18. It's a great line......and should be repeated over and over.t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:47 PM
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4. Lets hope Kerry does say something
intense about this so the people will remember it.

I would go over everything bush said in his Mulligan speech today and refute every darn thing in the "debate" on Friday.

I think it's more of their devious politics to command air time today to refute last Thursdays debate points by Kerry. More like Chickenshit politics!
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:49 PM
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5. Why did the Senate have to vote twice on "87 billion"?
This is how I would frame it:

Yea, everybody's seen the clip where JK says "first I voted before it before I voted against it..." But stop for a second and ask yourself *why* the Senate would have to have two votes on the same appropriation bill.

Hmmmm...

Is it because the first time the bill said where the money would come from and Bush said he would veto it? Yes, it is.

If Bush gets so pissy about how unsupportive voting no was, then how does he justify the veto threat? I think JK should ask him that. If not in the debates, then in commercials.

It would dovetail nicely with what JE brought up last night about the duplicity of Cheney trying to slam JK/JE for voting to end weapons systems that he himself was trying to kill.

Goes to the trust issue.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:49 PM
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6. I'd like these 2 points addressed......
Regarding the Senates authorization vote to allow Iraq attack....
"We gave Bush a drivers license, not instructions to drive off a cliff." (Great line by a fellow DUer.)

Also, I'd like something like this..... "36 days before the 9/11 attacks The president got a CIA Briefing saying, "Bin Ladin a threat to attack. It mentioned airline hijackings and threats on New York City and Govt buildings...... Is everyone aware of that memo? It's called the Aug 6th PDB.....This administration fought like heck to keep it secret before flip flopping and releasing to the 9/11 commission. The President was on vacation at the time he got and we know he played golf that morning. I think the president owes the American people to tell us everything he did as a result of reading that memo to try to protect the American."
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Shreddesaurous Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:51 PM
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7. Our economy...
I'd really like some focus on Bush's fiscal irresponsibility. Between additional tax breaks for the wealthiest of our citizens, more corporate welfare and pork barrel spending he's driven our country into what seems like an ever darkening abyss of debt. He was handed a balanced budget when he took office and dropped the ball.

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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:58 PM
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8. Tomorrow is Friday??
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 04:58 PM by kerryin2004
Am I behind a day? and if so I am in serious shit!
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:59 PM
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9. 87 Billion - bring up bush's veto threat
if he doesn't, my head will explode.
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WindChill Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:34 PM
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10. I'd love to see Kerry...
Give Bush a little lesson in how Congress works. Others have mentioned the "voted for the $87B before voting against it" albatross and I'd like to see him explain to W that there are "good" bills and "bad" bills" like he was a child.

And after last night I'd kind of like to see if he could take a shot at Cheney's answer to the question about his support of lifting sanctions on Iran. What Cheney said in explanation was that the problem with unilateral sanctions was that American businesses are shut out. For one, that seems to put business interests above everything including national security. For another, one could ask if that means Cheney would support lifting the embargo on Cuba? And we all know how that would play in Florida.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:59 PM
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17. Hi WindChill!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:35 PM
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11. That Kerry won't hold the door open while the GOP raids our homes
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:35 PM
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12. Call him out on the administrations flip flops
Just like Edwards did last night, but really stick it to him.

Talk about how lame the Medicare bill is.

david
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:43 PM
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13. That hot italian sausage is better than sweet italian sausage
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 06:02 PM
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15. challenge bush to say to his face the distortions he says out campaigning
face down the bully on national tv.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 06:58 PM
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16. I would also like him to mention some of these bills that
go through Congress so loaded with pork. That is a real sign of no leadership. The congress is acting like kids in a candy store without an adult. We need leadership to guide the country on numerous matters that Bush just lets slide while he talks about The Enemy.
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:57 PM
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19. the cabinet
I think he should state something to the fact that he will choose a cabinent of strong and experienced leaders to replace Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Wolfowitz, ect....
People need to see the bigger picture of a Kerry administration. and people really don't look favorably at people in the cabinet (I think FH911 illustrated how scary the whole Bush machine is)
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:00 PM
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20. beat bush to the issue
Say the President is probably going to say that I voted against the troops but voting against the 87 billion bill, let me explain to you the truth in my actions and the distortion that they are spreading.........plus he needs to go on to say that there was another proposal that he agreed with and that the difference was that the tax cut paid for the war.............and that when he says he was making a protest in his vote, it was because there were enough votes passed (he wasn't going to make or break the bill being passed), but there were much better ways to really keep the troops safe, but Bush cared too much about getting the wealthiest Americans a fat check.

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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:03 PM
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21. During the 2000 campaign
he railed about the price of oil being too high and stated (I'm doing this from memory) that if he were Pres he'd call OPEC and demand they open the spigots to bring prices down.

So, nu??
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:10 PM
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22. two points
He needs to keep repeating the fact that being absolute when you are absolutely wrong isn't strong, it is stubborn.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true. Kerry needs to repeat this over and over.
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