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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:00 PM
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Ohio now 'Weak Kerry', pushes Kerry's EC number to 280! ?
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 07:15 PM by MsMagnificent
Somebody double check me please... I can't believe what I'm seeing!

Where the states stand now:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/


Electoral vote calculator:

http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/ev/


*waiting with bated breath*



******Edit: Fixed typo
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:02 PM
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1. Arkansas is wrong
sorry, but I live in the most conservative section, and the Kerry signs are all around. I think AR could go either way.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:04 PM
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2. Wisconsin is outawack on that site
He uses Strategic Vision polls, although to his credit, he identifies them as a GOP pollster.... But he shouldn't use them....

Michigan and New Hampshire are likely Kerry wins, as is Pennsylvania, and Kerry has a great chance in Florida, Arizona, Colorado, Missouri, Arkansas, and Virginia.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:11 PM
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10. Right on, Virginia!
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:04 PM
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3. I still have major problems with their predictions
MI, PA and WI should all be at least barely Kerry
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:05 PM
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4.  Election Model updated: Kerry at 292 EV with an 86% win probability.
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 07:42 PM by TruthIsAll
http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/

On Edit: Its 86% not 77%. My bad. The upload didn't go thru as I thought it did. A-OK now.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:07 PM
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8. Just a note of thanks for your ace analyses, graphs, and charts.
Great stuff.

:yourock:
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:06 PM
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5. I just don' t think that is up to date
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:06 PM
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6. It should be better than that even. FL will flip too. Try a hefty 307!
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bigbubbabill Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:06 PM
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7. YEAH!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 09:28 AM
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16. Hi bigbubbabill!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Indie Media Magazine Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:08 PM
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9. CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES, C'MON!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:19 PM
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11. Kerry Will Carry Michigan, Pennsylvania & New Hampshire.
That's 42 electoral votes that will be in Kerry's camp come election day. You can count on that.

Now, Wisconsin...I believe we are in some trouble there and this concerns me. Edwards did not deliver any southern state which is also a concern.

At this point in time, John Kerry now must win Florida...

Or George Bush needs to get stomped in the next two debates.

It ain't over yet and Kerry's had two good weeks now.

Kerry is closing.

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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:24 PM
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12. So these figures are CONSERVATIVE?
(Sorry to use that word LOL)

ohhhh man....

That's all I can say, with some minor bicep trembling and a HUGE grin on my face.

Ohhhh man... there's truly hope for the country?

But is the "Significant speech" (BTW PA is given to Bush) going to impact, and if so how much?
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:25 PM
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13. The ARG website is preset to the results of the 2000 election
So, if Kerry wins every state Gore won _and_ Ohio, he gets 280 EV. But according to electoral-vote.com, he's not leading in every state that Gore won (PA, MI, WI, for ex).
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:49 PM
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14. Don't worry about MI and PA
There is little chance Bush will win in MI. I think his campaign realizes this as well. If they want a likely pick up it would be WI and IA. Gore barely won those two, so they never should have been considered to be in the KErry column.

As for PA I heard they've had a great registration and turn out effort. Also I think Rendell will deliver. I also think Richardson will help deliver NM, another state Gore barely won (smallest margin of victory of any state - 300 somn votes).
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:53 PM
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15. No, but you can click in what the latest polls set
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 07:57 PM by MsMagnificent
which is what I did (No way I'm going to blindly follow what happened in 2000!)

OK, well I see now that Ohio & PA cancel each other out pretty much.
Still, I think what with the job losses to both those states these past 4 years, they stand a good chance of going to JK/JE. Admittedly my opinion isn't worth the paper... uh... the bytes they're written on. I've been wrong (gasp! :) before! LOL

And what was that about WI being out of whack? Higher polls for Kerry or Bush?

However yesterday Florida was considered "Barely Bush" (< or = to 5), now it's "Weak Bush" which does not bode well for that state.

I'm surprised Floridians cannot tell a whopper lie(s) when it's told to them even if by a older rich, balding, powerful white guy.

Oh well, guess it was premature *frown*

But I for one am going to keep on striving right up until the end of election day! That war criminal in the Oval Office has GOT to GO!
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