How much did this administration have to do with disarming Libya?

[Bush was AWOL]

[Wickerman]

1. My guess is not much

They have made little hay with that victory and that is ENTIRELY unlike them. I imagine they want little scrutiny of the event.

[Bush was AWOL]

2. I heard Feingold yesterday on with Ed Schultz

and he was laughing that they were taking credit for this.

[Wickerman]

3. It has been SUCH a non-event

which has been interesting on its own. I really see little written about it. Gotta know Feingold has the scoop.

[Bush was AWOL]

8. Feingold credits it to the UN, but says that doesn't

stop the administration and their supporters from taking credit for it.

[Wickerman]

13. UN, hell, we can't even get them to pay their friggin' parking

tickets! /freep. :7

True, and would explain why they haven't used it much. They will ramp that up now, I am sure - getting too close to the election to counter a sound byte like that. :eyes:

[papau]

14. The negotiations were concluded a year before Iraq War - so what

did the Iraq War have to do with it.

It was a trade of "no Sanctions" for Money from OIL COMPANIES - not Libya - just passing through Libya! - to relatives, plus guilt admission by Libya - plus grants to US and British Oil Companies of new oil rights.

It was reported in the econ newsletters a few years ago - and again when it happened - but the mainstream media has censored the reports of any deals because Bush folks told them it might screw up the deal if they were reported!

I do love our not controlled by the right wing GOP media - they just act like they are.

:-)

[NewYorkerfromMass]

4. Did they have any arms? Just look at North Korea

and see how well their theory works.

[ClintonTyree]

5. There wasn't.................

that much to disarm anyway. Khadafi really came out the winner in that deal. Sanctions were lifted, he gave up next to nothing in the WMD department, and now appears to have hoodwinked the Bush Administration into letting them off the hook for many earlier transgressions.
I chuckle ever time Bush brings it up, but Joe Sixpack knows next to nothing about the deal so he probably thinks it was some big time coup on Bush's part. Again, the willfull ignorance of the American people goes in Bush's favor.

[liberal N proud]

6. 0 Nothing Zilch

[troublemaker]

7. Who cares? Libya didn't HAVE anything

Mustard gas. That's what they had.

The rest was notes and glassware and unrefined uranium. It's all bullshit. If they HAD anything useful they wouldn't have turned it over. BECAUSE they had nothing of worth it was a no-brainer to turn it over. Why not?

[madrchsod]

9. very little

after reagens strike big mo started cooling down his rhetoric and then the clinton whitehouse started talks with mo and he decided to start playing ball. the last straw was bush`s invasion, so mo thought it was a good time to turn in all the junk shit he had before the prices fell. big mo played bush like a well tuned guitar

[leftofthedial]

10. virtually nothing

It was a multilateral, mainly economic, issue.

[Killarney]

11. The administration basically paid them off for a talking point.

The administration made a deal with them. Libya gives them what little they have and we lift sanctions meaning they're back in the oil business. Means a lot of money to Libya and the administration can tout it as a success. But in reality, we paid for a talking point.

[Homerr]

12. Britain was involved too, mostly maybe

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1555282

[BUSHOUT]

15. Here is a good link that explains the bushlie.

USA Today:
Libyas rehabilitation in the works since early '90s

[blm]

16. During the primaries Kerry said Libya had been negotiating for over 4 yrs.

already to turn over their weapons starting in the Clinton administration. Bushies delayed it for political impact so they could point to Iraq as the reason.

[Philostopher]

17. Well, considering Gadhafi had already decided to stop

being an irritant and start pushing Libya to become an economic power in the region ten years ago, probably very little. I read an article back during the Clinton years (can't remember where I read it, but the USA Today link in the post in this thread covers much of the same info) that essentially stated Gadhafi had decided economic power was much more useful to Libya as a whole than the power to scare the shit out of the US, so he turned his wacko energy toward making Libya productive and a good trade partner. I remember being skeptical at the time, but frankly it appears to have been true.

I don't know -- maybe he got the right drugs? I always thought he sounded like an untreated bipolar, maybe somebody started slipping him some Lithium and he 'saw the light' or something, who knows? The renovation of Gadhafi and Libya's reputation in the world has been a long-ongoing process, so any claim the Shrub might make to having actually forced this to happen is pretty specious.