Will Kerry EVER mention BCCI?

[liberal_in_GA]

I thought it would come up during the debate, but no. Why is he not harping on this? And it CAN effectively be reduced into a digestible soundbite. :shrug:

[KharmaTrain]

1. Let's Stick With Halliburton

We have too much stuff out there...time to refine what stuff is sticking and throw more of it. You could see Crashcart do the slow-burn when Edwards attacked him on it and even though he knew it was coming, couldn't refute it. Anyone whose seen F911 knows Haliburton.

I'd love to see BCCI re-opened in a new Kerry administration...wanna be if this were thoroughly investigated we'd blow the lid of Al Queda?

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. I think it's an ace to be played after the election.

Kerry is going to have to re-educate millions of Americans who were sleep-walking in the last two decades. He holds the key to understanding a pattern of corruption that has existed for well over twenty years. In lieu of what has happened in W's Administration, I don't think it will be too difficult to show that the Republican party is at the hub of this corruption and the Bush family plays a large role.

[KharmaTrain]

8. Has Too Much Time Passed?

Remember, that scandal is now nearly 15 years in the tooth...lots of things can get scrambled, shredded and just plain disappear. Look how long it took just to come to some sort of agreement on the money Jews had stolen from them in banks in Switzerland during WWII.

I think the advantage Kerry brings here is a new approach to how this war should be fought...and to reframe the entire "war on terror" in the light of the real root causes of why these people hate us: Israel, Oil & intrusion on their cultures. Maybe I'm too damn idealist. LOL.

[blm]

12. Kerry kept an office full of material on BCCI, and paid rent on it himself

when Congress wanted to "move on" from it. Maybe Eliot Spitzer will be given the keys to a BCCI investigation when Kerry takes over in Jan.

[KharmaTrain]

17. We Need To Pry Open The Bush I Records

There's something John Kerry could do with the stroke of the pen on 1/21/05...open the Bush I & II files wide open so we can really get a look at what this regime wanted to hide. I'll bet we'd get to some Iran/Contra and Silverado answers while where at it.

The sad thing is this isn't tin foil stuff...this is all very real and documented and long papered away.

[The Backlash Cometh]

14. Patterns and trends are important.

It's the patterns of corruption that he needs to illustrate. The minute details of each case is not important. The part that will be difficult is getting the average American to understand that our pillars of the community believed that this usurpation of the public trust was their due. It's a way of life that no one wants to admit existed, but we know it's there. We even have names for it, be it patronage or good ole boy system. And, I'm afraid, that Kerry will have some in the Democratic party who would resist him because they have also benefited from this way of life.

[John_H]

4. BCCI is too complex for the whores to pick up, but Kerry should atr least

say, "I was fighting to cut off terrorist funding before george bush even heard of Osama bin Laden."

[sonicx]

6. yeah, at least say a sentence or 2 about it.

[kentuck]

2. It was so complicated, few people could understand it....

It would only confuse the voters, unfortunately.

[sonicx]

5. "in the 80s i shut down one of the terrorists' favorite banks"

seems easy enough to me.

he could add another sentence or 2 and the voters will get it. he doesn't need detail. he just needs to show he's done something.

[dolstein]

7. Only is he's dumb enough to think undecided votes have ever

heard of BCCI.

[Vincardog]

9. Bank of Corrupt Criminals inc. Bush banked there Kerry shut it down. Slam D

unk

[HootieMcBoob]

10. He talked about it in his acceptance speech at the convention

didn't mention bcci by name but talked about the circumstances. The problem is the short amount of time they have to speak on any given issue. But, I guess that's what we're stuck with, and I don't know if I would trust Bush with a more open format. He might eat up all the time with dead space, lots of uhhhs and corny phrases and "let me finishes".

[LittleClarkie]

11. Why do I have a vague recollection that he has

somewhere along the line. Perhaps quickly during the debates, or on the Temple speech. I'll have to go look.

[bear425]

13. good article here...

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html

Two decades ago, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) was a highly respected financial titan. In 1987, when its subsidiary helped finance a deal involving Texas oilman George W. Bush, the bank appeared to be a reputable institution, with attractive branch offices, a traveler's check business, and a solid reputation for financing international trade. It had high-powered allies in Washington and boasted relationships with respected figures around the world.

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[AP]

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[WiseMen]

16. Kerry crusaded for justice in the 80's But was smeared as "conspiracy nut"

by the right-wing. He was proved right but so much of the truth
has been shrouded in secrecy, confusion and denials that there is
no upside from featuring this shining period in his senate career.

[leftofthedial]

18. a few thoughts

BCCI is a true nexus of evil and the bushgang are up to their scrawny little necks in it.

BUT

BCCI is extremely complicated as an issue, precisely the kind of thing the bushgang and their media accomplices excel at obfuscating

halliburton is more immediate and tied directly to these individuals

kerry is scoring points by comparing the little bushturd unfavorably to his poppy (which is also very effective at pissing the turdlet off and making him lose his focus); any deep discussion of BCCI would necessarily expose George the First as the evil slimeball he is and thus eliminate this tactic

If I were Kerry, I'd mention my work on BCCI as one of my accomplishments, but do so simply and not dwell on it. that would reintroduce the concept without bogging the debate down in the minutiae of international finance

[Octafish]

20. Excellent point: "Mention my work on BCCI as one of my accomplishments."

The Smirk is going out of his small way to make out that Kerry has done little in the Senate. It'd be nice to see our horse bring up the fact he busted the biggest criminal enterprise in the world - that is not counting the BFEE. THAT's next.

[Octafish]

19. Both Smirk and Sneer brought up "A.Q. Khan."

Kerry and Edwards, I thought, missed an opportunity to tie the "Father of the Pakistani Bomb" to the organization that gave him the money -- BCCI.