yurbud
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:06 AM
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CONTACT FEINSTEIN on Patriot Act--she's voting FOR renewal |
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I just called her office and they confirmed she plans to vote against the new Patriot Act, but will vote for renewing the parts of Patriot I set to expire. Every time I talk to her office or email her I end with "...so I don't have to support someone to challenge her in the primary." Give a kick if contact her. http://feinstein.senate.gov/contact.html#phonefaxHillbilly Hitler art: Blog:
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:33 AM
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I also threatened her with loss of my support and added that I'm a democrat.
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:36 AM
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:19 AM
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4. Can you get more specific info from her...a link or something? |
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:21 AM
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I am writing to urge a No vote on the renewal of the Patriot Act.
The only part of this otherwise odious piece of legislation that is even worthy of argument is the sharing of information between intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Where foreign and domestic investigations converge, this seems to be only common sense.
Beyond that, the Act is little more than a fascist's delight which should never have been approved in the first place, let alone renewed. I don't want the federal government looking at what I've been reading at the library or buying in book stores without a warrant; I don't want the federal government checking my e-mail without a warrant. I don't want the federal government investigating anyone without giving that person the right to know he is being investigated. I don't want the federal government listening to previledged conversation between an attorney and a client. And I most certainly do not want my local public librarian to be, in effect, impressed into a federal secret police.
Moreover, I don't trust the current administration to respect any safeguards the act may have; I don't even trust this administration to respect civil liberties with or without the Patriot Act's encroachment on them. This is an administration that came to power through electral fraud and judicial manipulation and that deliberately lied to the American people, the people of the world, Congress and the United Nations in order to start an unjustified war of aggression. Mr. Bush and his aides were never entitled to the benefit of any doubt in the first place; now they have even less credibility than ever, if that is possible.
The only reasonable vote to cast on the Patriot Act renewal is NO.
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:58 AM
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6. Done. Here's what I sent: |
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I’m writing to urge a NO vote on renewing any provisions of the USA Patriot Act.
I feel that the so-called Patriot Act is in fact just the opposite, and supporting this piece of legislation is in fact supporting the destruction of the United States Constitution.
Please be an advocate for freedom and due process; and work to rescind the Patriot Act, not the Constitution.
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Mon Jun-20-05 03:19 PM
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7. Done; I just hope she listens... |
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Mon Jun-20-05 03:43 PM
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I am appalled that you would even consider voting for renewing parts of the Patriot Act. This legislation has done nothing to prevent terrorists from attacking this country. It has done nothing to make the American people safer. All it has done is give a untrustworthy administration the tools to spy on its own people.
Any vote for any part of the Patriot Act is a vote against the American people, and it will be remembered come election time next year.
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Mon Jun-20-05 03:58 PM
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9. Thanks Yurbud. My response to Feinsteins claim of no abuse by the Act. |
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Their office stated that Feinstein has stated that there have been no documented cases of abuse due to the Patriot Act.
I responded by saying that is indeed the whole reason behind the Patriot Act.
THERE IS NO WAY TO PROVE YOU ARE BEING VIOLATED due to the lack of traceable electronic "fingerprints" if you will.
What most Americans have not been informed of, is that unless someone who is being 'watched' or monitored, unless they have both the technological expertise and training in using counter sweeping measures which would detect that such violations are being enacted on a person, cameras, security equipment (even then some are skilled in circumventing protection measures), there is virtually no conceivable way to provide the proof of being violated, Feinstein quickly states that has not been given. The even bigger issue is if someone does find they are being monitored for no reason. How do they prove WHO is doing the monitoring. Is it a neighbor or is it your friendly Homeland Security/FBI agent?
The problem is any American citizen, INCLUDING those who oppose the policies of the Bush Administration are fair game according to the Patriot Act. They can easily be monitored, tracked or followed without any knowledge or more importantly, legal recourse. Guess who is paying for such unwarranted investigations? We are.
So, any violations of the Patriot Act are simply NOT TRACEABLE, therefore, not provable, therefore no accountability whatsoever. There are no electronic fingerprints. Thats the reason by which the Patriot Act is illegal, unconstitutional, and frankly dangerous.
Contrary to what Senator Feinstein and Dick Cheney have asserted that there have been no cases of wrongdoing or "substantiated abuse", There have been many cases that have been documented and recorded of Patriot Act violations inflicted on many Americans.
Where has Mrs. Feinstein been looking?
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:05 PM
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16. Got a reply from Feinstein today, |
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I guess I finally lit a fire under her butt. I gave her hell for not responding to previous e-mails. She says "the patriot act II is only in draft form now and for internal discussion. Final proposal will come from white house or attorney general. She is aware of the balance between government and the peoples rights". There you have it, the same old crapola!!!!
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:08 PM
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10. Big surprise. Why does she bother calling herself a Dem?? |
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Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 10:09 PM by ailsagirl
She needs to be replaced.
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Tue Jun-21-05 07:43 PM
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13. I posted that same feeling about her weeks ago, |
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with 63 reponses, many people are just wimping out and say we will end up with the pubs. My post said we need to put someone up against her as she is not doing the job we sent her to do. Just think of the presedance it will set if our reps do a lousy job we will replace them!!!! LET'S SAME IT LOUD AND CLEAR!!!!
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Wed Jun-22-05 07:03 PM
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15. OK-- let's get RID of her and get someone in like Boxer!! |
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Surely that's a possibility-- there must be plenty of capable people who can be senator. Feinstein has duped us, IMO. She pretends she's a Dem but she's not. She could take some lessons from Boxer!!
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Wed Jun-22-05 10:21 PM
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Feinstein is definitly REBUBLICAN LIGHT!!!! I can't think of anything good she has done for CA. She never got us any money back for all the energy costs stolen by Texas companies. She wouldn't stand with Boxer on the Ohio voting irregularities, she voted for Gonzales, the bankrupcy bill, (which is only for the rich), and her husband got big contracts in Iraq. I have no doubt she has sold us all out. I was a supporter for many years, and she was a good politician. She used to listen to the people. No more! If she gets alot of e-mails, maybe she will wake-up. Not that I am waiting. But she really would be a good example to use in terms of ousting her and letting others like her, know that they will not be safe and just skate by.
Really, if we continue to only elect people based on electability, we will end up with a bunch of Strom Thurmonds! Yuk. You know the ones who keep getting elected and don't do squat!!
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Thu Jun-23-05 06:57 PM
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19. I wonder what her relationship is with Boxer now? I recall they |
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used to be friendly-- or at least gave the appearance of it. Boxer couldn't be very happy with her colleague these days.
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Tue Jun-21-05 06:10 PM
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11. Done...though I am in agreement that |
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it's about time she goes. I am sick of her calling herself a Democrat, yet supporting the very things we find appalling.
Yuck on her!
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Tue Jun-21-05 07:45 PM
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14. Fienstein needs to be looking for a new job. |
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Anyone think of someone to run against her? Need to start a movement.
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laugle
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Tue Jun-21-05 07:37 PM
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12. Do you know which parts of patriot I |
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she is voting for renewal. Is it everything but the library access: Has anyone in the congress even read the patriot act!! Where do other dems stand on the renewal? Sorry I'm not up on it at the moment, but will e-mail her. When are they voting in the senate?
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Thu Jun-23-05 12:51 AM
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18. Here's what I wrote her |
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Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 12:52 AM by ProudDad
As a left-leaning Democrat, ostensibly your "base", I promise you that I will work as hard as I can to prevent your re-election if you vote for the "flag burning amendment". For me, as a 1st Amendment absolutist, this is a major issue.
Uh, how many times has anyone in this country burned (or desecrated, whatever the HELL that means) a flag.
If you're going to eliminate rights, how about an amendment making it clear that Corporations DO NOT have the rights of a human citizen of this country? That would be a constructive and democratic use of your time rather than wasting it on this silly amendment.
Ooops, just noticed you're talking about the mis-named "patriot" act...
sorry... :shrug:
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