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Sun Nov-07-04 01:16 PM
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Could Arnold run against Feinstein in 2006 and win? |
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What do you Californians think? Are foreign born citizens even allowed to run for Senate?
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:20 PM
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1. and if so, what difference in their policies? |
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... don't think there is a native-born requirement for Senate BTW
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Sun Nov-07-04 06:11 PM
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15. I won't vote for Feinstein. She's a traitor on too many issues. |
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I won't vote for Arnold either.
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Mon Nov-08-04 11:17 AM
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21. Which issues is she a traitor on? |
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Mon Nov-08-04 11:19 PM
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25. Often when liberals despise her, it's because of the I/P issue |
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Not sure in this case, but that's what I've found. :)
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Tue Nov-09-04 01:02 AM
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Tue Nov-09-04 01:28 AM
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Israel/Palestine issues often come up in the pro/anti DiFi debate.
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Wed Nov-17-04 08:05 PM
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Thu Nov-18-04 01:23 AM
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She voted for the Patriot Act.
She was one of the Quislings who sat there and refused to sign a petition from the Black Congressional Caucus, trying to get an investigation into the disenfranchisement of 10's of thousands of blacks in Florida.
Every single Dem who sat there for that deserves to be replaced in their next primary.
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Sat Nov-20-04 02:19 PM
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35. They also rolled over for NCLB |
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(NO Child Left Behind). After 9/11, many Dems rolled over and died. My take was that they were so worried about being shouted down as unpatriotic. (good God, get a spine!) The year or 2 after 9/11, I wondered where all the Dems went. I, for the first time, questioned whether I would stay a Democrat, and that was BIG, because I had voted Dem my whole life. This is probably why Dean began to become so appealing to me---he stayed a Democrat, for chrissakes!
Feinstein also voted for vouchers in the DC area--that pissed me off.
BUT, if it were between her and Ah-nold, I still wouldn't swing to Muscle Boy.
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Sun Nov-07-04 10:28 PM
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16. Feinstein is very popular in Ca. |
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She could beat any repug including the Groper.
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:23 PM
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it is the rise of the machiens and who cares about the Conmstitution
If they want to drive Feinstein out, they can... does not matter how we vote.
Good news we do not use diebold in this state, and optiscans, thiuogh can be rigged, have a paper trail
I am all for old fashioned paper and pencil, end of discusion, hand counted... that is what we need
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:24 PM
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5. Until we get rid of the machines |
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We do not get democracy back.
The worlds most reliable voting machine:
1. Paper 2. Pen 3. Ballot Box
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Sat Nov-20-04 02:27 PM
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36. Diebold IS used in CA |
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It was used as opti-scans for our "fill in the bubble" ballots (I live in Bakersfield, Kern County.)
btw, lots of Shrub Jr.s out here--me thinks I need a tractor to plow 'em all under.
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:23 PM
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3. It's entirely possible |
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Feinstein has pissed off most of us. I'm hoping Barbara Lee will run against her in the primary election. If Feinstein runs again, which she may not, and runs unopposed, I'm going to have a real hard time voting for her.
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:57 PM
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11. Barbara Lee had the cajones to vote against giving * a blank check to |
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invade Iraq. She was viciously attacked for her courage.
I think she would make a fine senator.
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:24 PM
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4. If Arnold ran against Feinstein |
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Arnold sadly would win. Californians (well most of the country) love to a movie star on TV. Honestly, the only type of person who could beat Arnold is another celebrity. If the repukes ran a movie star for president, it would be the biggest landslide in our history. Welcome to America, isn't it great?
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:35 PM
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8. Arnie Won't Win if We Get The Word Out About THE MEETING |
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with him and a bunch of RW bigwigs and KEN LAY.
We need to recall the Gropernator now before he does any more damage.
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Mon Nov-08-04 12:15 AM
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18. Is that what the prop 59 request is about? |
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Mon Nov-08-04 03:23 PM
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24. A recall effort has already been started... |
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:25 PM
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6. sure he could win - they will rig the vote |
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:42 PM
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The only politician with higher ratings than Arnold in this state is Dianne Feinstein.
It might be a close one, but she's pretty much unbeatable.
He's more likely positioning himself for four more years as Gov in 2006, and then he's termed out and will run against Boxer in 2010, who is much more vulnerable than Feinstein.
Or, he might get bored with politics and just quit to go back to Hollywood (don't discount this possibility).
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Sun Nov-07-04 04:34 PM
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14. Senator Sheila Kuehl says... |
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the insider talk in Sacramento is he's positioning himself for a run at the 2006 Senatorial race. She should know, and I believe her.
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Mon Nov-08-04 10:29 AM
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It shows that Arnie didn't get a flying rats ass about the state. It's only about his politcal carrer.
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Sun Nov-07-04 01:44 PM
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10. So far Arnold hasn't made a major misstep, but |
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a lot of his comments have rubbed quite a few people wrong out here in CA. A little Arnold goes a long way and I have a feeling that he doesn't 'wear' well. The novelty is just about over. You can only listen to him for so long, IMO. He'll stick his foot in it bigtime, sooner or later.
We'll see. Flash in the pan or force to be reckoned with? Time will tell.
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Sun Nov-07-04 02:07 PM
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12. 2 years is a long time in politifcs. |
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if Feinstein opted to run for Governor in the recall election, she would've won . . . easily. Arnold was able to win for many reasons, one was that there was no real viable candidate with experience that was seriously running that would've gotten enough voters. And the only time he could've been evaluated outside of non-issues campaigning was the one debat that was rigged in his favor (though Arianna tried to get people to see what he was all about).
By 2006, let's see. More deficits, the state further in debt. The state further in a mess. And Arnold's person he snagged from Jeb has already resigned? And he continued to endorse Bush, which as you can see hasn't gotten anywhere edgewise. Finally, we in California are still pissed about Enron. We were pissed how Davis handled it, but we also blame Bush/Cheney. Feinstein would have the resources to point out Arnold's dark history. Yes, she'd have to fight with stars and glitz and all the cable channels will continually run all his films ad nauseum. But while a number of us liberals have an issue with Feinstein, I think most of us would vote for her over Arnold, easily (especially those of us in the Bay Area, and that's really saying something).
Now if she doesn't run, all bets are off. And no, I don't want my representative Barbara Lee to run against Feinstein, because by our state law, she'd then have to resign her seat by 2006. An open seat may be another story, but I do not want to lose her and I think we as a country are better served with her being there in the U.S. House, unless she has a real chance.
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Mon Nov-08-04 12:12 AM
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17. Boxer might be able to beat him |
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Fri Nov-19-04 06:58 PM
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34. That's what I'd like to see... |
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Gov of Cali is a great spot to launch a presidential campaign from.
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Mon Nov-08-04 12:46 AM
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19. I had a nightmare about that |
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However, the Gropenfuehrer only got into the governorship because of Gray Davis, and if we expose Ahnuld's knee-jerk partisanship, it would be good.
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Mon Nov-08-04 01:53 PM
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why would he want to go from Top Dog to one of a 100 senators? And a junior senator at that.
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Mon Nov-08-04 03:20 PM
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23. he's be an instant celebrity in the Senate |
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just like Hillary--she's the junior senator from NY but she still has a higher profile than a lot of others who have served much longer
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Tue Nov-09-04 10:50 AM
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28. Arnold has more power as Governor. He won't run for anything else until |
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he's term limitted or he's running for president.
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Wed Nov-10-04 12:05 AM
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29. If he did run for the Senate |
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we could probably paint him as an opportunist who doesn't care about CA enough to tough it out as governor.
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Wed Nov-10-04 02:35 AM
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I think Arnold Schwarzenegger is unbeatable right now. If it became legal for him to run for President, I think he would have very little trouble winning. Luckily, he's a moderate Republican.
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Wed Nov-17-04 10:20 PM
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32. Arnold and Guilani won't win Senate races |
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Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 10:21 PM by jfern
Even though they have Republican governors, those states will not be enlarging the Republican's Senate majority any time soon.
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Sun Nov-21-04 05:00 PM
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37. This is my thought, exactly. |
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I am one of those nervous Dems re: losing any more ground in either the House or the Senate.....that is, if they don't get stolen from us.
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Sun Nov-21-04 11:17 PM
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38. Look at the other senate race for clues |
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Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 11:33 PM by Capn Sunshine
Barbara Boxer: 1st class liberal. Ran left, energized her base, made it very clear where she stood. In the face of the "Great Arnold juggernaut" she got more votes than any other candidate in the election except Bush and Kerry. She polled over 200,000 votes MORE than Kerry in California, and crushed her neocon Arnold supporting opponent by over twenty percentage points.
No WAY Arnold wins the Senate. Hell, he couldn't even win a straight-up election .
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Tue Nov-30-04 02:36 AM
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39. Two words: DIebold\ Sequoia |
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followed by ISS...
Any other questioins?
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