mohinoaklawnillinois
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:43 PM
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Poll question: OK, Illinois DU'ers |
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Name your favorite baseball team..
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Tue Apr-20-04 12:13 AM
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1. We have a mixed marriage. |
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Hubby is a Cardinal fan and I am a Cub fan...
I say it is because he wasn't raised better, but usually that is in response to crap from my In-laws who live down there. :)
To be honest? There is never a bad day at the ball park--and I can have fun watching anybody play. Wrigley, however, is a green cathedral.
Laura
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Tue Apr-20-04 12:33 AM
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I just moved out here from Cali last year, though.
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Tue Apr-20-04 01:09 AM
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3. They don't play real baseball in the AL, |
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and the Cardinals??
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Tue Apr-20-04 10:00 AM
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Ownership aside (both are GOP Shills):
Sox fans: Democrats (blue collar, union, city...) Cubs fans: Republicans (white collar, suburban, out-of-town transplants)
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mohinoaklawnillinois
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Tue Apr-20-04 02:30 PM
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9. Hey, I take exception to that characterization. |
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I am a life-long Democrat, from a blue-collar, union, city family. Just because I don't happen to live in Mt. Greenwood, don't mean I ain't a South Sider. I'm just that anomaly a South Side Cub fan and damn proud of it too. So there!!!:evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Tue Apr-20-04 02:49 PM
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Both teams demographic embodies a democrat leaning split, this is Chicago after all. Just look at the Cubs/Sox congressional delegation.
Danny Davis and Luis Gutierrez - districts cover both Rahm Emanuel, Jan Schakowsky - Cubs Bobby Rush, Jesse Jackson - Sox
Don't try saying the Sox fans are more democrat than the Cubs fans.
I find the fat cats in the suburbs are far more partial to the Sox, because of Comisky's amenities. The corporate boxes and the dining room are Repub fat cat pleasures. I've been invited games on the south side by North and Northwest suburban business types. I always turn them down. And there are plenty of mulleted Sox fans loving Bush for kicking A-rab ass. As Dean so ineloquently put it, the guys with the confederate flags on their pickup trucks.
I'll concede that there are plenty of Chads and Trixies that take the three hour lunch at Wrigley. But there are plenty of regular folks there, too. Both teams embody the spirit of the great city they represent, and that is undoubtedly Democratic.
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Tue Apr-20-04 05:24 PM
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I love those girls! Lincoln Park is a blast
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Fri Apr-23-04 03:32 PM
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Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 03:36 PM by dymaxia
You think we're all rednecks, have 'mullets', and are ignorant. I've never seen a 'Confederate flag' type at a Sox game?
I lived in Wrigleyville - I saw plenty of 'mulletheads' in the vicinity. Guess what? Being familiar with the fanbases of both teams, they don't look all that different as far as I can tell.
It's precisely because of this ignorance and blatant class snobbery that there is so much bad blood between the teams.
I had to go to school with people who had attitudes like this, and because of my background, I was assumed to be one of your 'mulletheads' because of stupid stereotypes like this that people get from the media.
And I was a Dean supporter, but that was a really dumb thing for Dean to say.
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Fri Apr-23-04 04:30 PM
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25. That was my point, the fan-bases look the same. |
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I didn't say categorically state all Sox fans are mulleted rednecks. I was stating that both teams draw fans from across the spectrum, and that to say Sox Fans = Dems, Cubs Fans = GOP is completely false.
Maybe the confederate flag flap strikes again. I just meant the working class guys that vote Republican because they think Democrats are weak on defense, or some other stupid reason. And just like Dean, I should have found some other analogy to make my point.
The original suggestion I was replying to that Cubs fans are all rich GOP fat cats while Sox fans are all blue collar dems is a blatant classist argument as well.
As I stated, both teams draw fans from across the spectrum.
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sjgman9
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Tue Apr-20-04 05:23 PM
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13. HEY! I'm a Cubs fan too! |
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I voted for Obama. I've lived in the city and suburbs. I'm white collar, although a college student at nearby DePaul University!
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St. Jarvitude
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Sun May-16-04 11:31 AM
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28. I actually have found quite a lot of freep Sox fans |
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As well as a lot of freep Cubs fans.
For example, my geometry teacher is a right-wing asshole and a bleed-heart Sox fan. An acquantaince of mine is kind of a right-of-center Cubs fan.
For the most part, you can't generalize about either. My mom's mother grew up on the South Side and was a diehard Cub fan, and the only "transplant" close to her was her parents, who moved from Ireland. My father grew up in the Polish neighborhood - at least it was almost exclusively Poles then - on the northwest side, and he's a diehard Cub fan. The only "transplant" he encountered was moving to Boston and then coming back; his family had lived in Chicago for at least two generations prior, and before that Poland.
Socially, both my mother and father were between lower and middle class. Politically, my mother is a leaning-left moderate and my father a leaning-right. To say that both of them - and all Cub fans - are white-collar, suburban, out of town "transplants" (and to use that word belittles the millions of immigrants who made this country), and fundies is a grossly ignorant statement.
Besides, none of that really matters. All that really matters is:
SOX SUCK!! :hi: :) :)
Just kidding. Love the Cubs, am indifferent to the Sox.
P.S: I've noticed a strong tendency for Sox fans to be rabid and foaming at the mouth about the Cubs, while a lot of Cub fans don't say anything bad about the Sox unless provoked by a rabid Sox fan. I don't get it. :shrug:
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Tue Apr-20-04 11:04 AM
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Note to all Cubs' fans: A century is a terrible things to waste! :evilgrin:
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Wed Apr-21-04 10:48 PM
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21. Up your ass, cards fan. |
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Go back to Missouri. Half-kidding. I am a die-hard Cubs fan, and love this rivalry. I actually like Pujols, but think that Edmonds dogs it to make routine plays look amazing.
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Thu Apr-22-04 06:40 PM
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We sure are Kicking ass now. Bring it on Saint Louis!!!!
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Tue Apr-20-04 11:51 AM
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6. I once went to a Halloween party downstate, dressed as a Cardinals Fan. |
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Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 11:51 AM by XNASA
I put on a sleeveless flannel shirt, a mullet wig, bucktoothed costume teeth and an old Cardinals hat.
Everyone at the party just assumed I was a local and didn't really get the joke.
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Tue Apr-20-04 12:56 PM
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*timidly raises hand and ducks* I'm not a huge baseball fan. Now, football is an entirely different story! GO BEARS!!!
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Tue Apr-20-04 02:17 PM
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Went to a Cubs-Sox game at Comiskey. Doesn't matter who won (OK, it was the Sox).
Now, anyone who has been to a game on the South Side in the last 13 years knows there is an extensive series of ramps to traverse in order to exit the stadium.
Thus, the end of any Sox-Cubs matchup offers the throngs to chant in support of their team (or usually, against the other). Blue language is not uncommon.
In this particular game, amid the chants ot Cubs Suck! Sox Suck!, one enterprising fan began to loudly chant "Packers Suck!"
The crowd enthusiastically joined in.
We can't agree on a baseball team, but on the gridiron, we're all friends.
Special thanks to the Bidwell clan (or whomever owned them at the time) for removing the Cardinals from the South Side and saving me (and my fellow Sox fans under 75 years old) from having to cheer for such a pitiful excuse for a franchise (hey, the Bears aren't great - but they're better than the Cards).
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Thu Apr-22-04 10:49 PM
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23. The Sox game I went to |
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was more fun up at the concession concourse. I kept asking if anyone needed another beer or something to eat just to be entertained. LOL (We had really good seats too...front row a little left of 3rd base)
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Tue Apr-20-04 05:06 PM
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I do like the Cubbies for the National League though.
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Wed Apr-21-04 12:28 AM
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17. been a sox fan all my life |
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started listening with my mom back in the fifties..saw the white sox-yankees in 58 when everyone was there-how many hall of famers during that game??? never liked the cubs -never will. haven`t been to the park in a couple of years but this year i`m going to see ozzy!~
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Wed Apr-21-04 09:41 PM
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19. And when it comes to baseball ... |
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... we have two favorite clubs:
They are the Go Go White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
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Tue Apr-20-04 09:59 PM
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16. Whoever the cubs are playing? |
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Ok, sorry, I couldn't resist. Agnostic Sox fan here who takes TONS of crap from cubbie in laws and freinds.
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Wed Apr-21-04 06:04 PM
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18. I believe you are referring to a certain line from the song |
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Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 06:05 PM by mohinoaklawnillinois
"We're the Southside Irish". I grew up with one of the fellas that I believe co-wrote that song, Terry McEldowney. He was a few years older than me but a super guy from super family.
I haven't seen him in years, but when I did run into him about 15 years ago, I gave him some joking grief about that particular line. We had a great laugh about it. He remembered that my Mom was a Cub fan as well, and he said "the apple don't fall too far from tree".
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Wed Apr-21-04 09:57 PM
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They did damn good tonight, too! 12 - 1.
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Mon May-03-04 09:04 AM
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26. Cardinals all the way. |
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Of course, I'm a native St. Louisan, but I've lived in Illinois for 15 years.
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