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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 02:18 AM
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Southern Illinoisan Poll: Do you think it's alright for the 10 Comandments
Do you think it is alright for the Ten Commandments to be displayed on government property?

http://www.southernillinoisan.com/

The poll is on the front page.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 02:39 AM
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1. It's a wonder that this remains as a sticky constitutional question . . .
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It's a wonder that this remains as a sticky constitutional question . . . and the "wonderment" of it all is that this is a Court constructed problem. Why do I say that?

Why?

Because the United States Supreme Court picks and chooses facts and circumstances here and there, and then tries to get the square peg into the round hole, legally.

Result?

The law around this issue is a mess. A complete mess. A mess perpetrated by the U.S. Supreme Court. It will remain a mess until or unless the 9 Justices hold a "blanket rule." No mention of God, no mention of religion anywhere. Remove it from our money. Remove it from the very facade of the U.S. Supreme Court in D.C, itself. Get rid of the chaplain in congress. Remove "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance. Blah, blah, blah. End of problem.

It's called "backbone." And the Court should get some. Soon too. Is this possible with the likes of the 3 Stooges -- Pope Scalia, Cardinal Thomas, and Wannabe Renhquist on the bench?
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Can o Beans Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 01:25 PM
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2. It's OK for them to display the last 6 of them
Edited on Mon Mar-07-05 01:25 PM by Can o Beans
The first four are the ones that force Christianity down the throat of the citizenship. The last 6 are fairly benign, and in fact are a decent set of ethical guidelines, and support most dem positions.

But I am not going to remember to keep the sabbath holy, worship only the god I am told to etc. If they include the first 4, I am for tossing them all.
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:12 AM
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3. Very Distressing That 80% Say Yes
I took the poll, voted No, then checked the results; about 80% say yes.

For me personally, I had a very difficult father, who did some very good things, but sometimes bordered on being emotionally and psychologically abusive, and sometimes acted like he was on a level with God, and like he felt that being my father gave him certain arbitrary privileges.

And I was very serious about trying to be a Christian as a young man in my 20's; one of the reasons for my disenchantment with Christianity was that it was not of any help to me at all in enabling me to deal with my father those times when he was a son of a bitch.

So I personally find offensive any reminders of a duty to "honor my father", particularly in the name of a religion that I am unhappy with.

And I think it is wrong and insensitive to remind anybody else who has or has had an abusive parent or parents of a duty to honor their parents. Particularly if that person is not Christian or Jewish, it is wrong to remind such a person of such a duty in the name of a religion that the person does not adhere to.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 09:58 AM
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4. Southern Illinois is still the buckle on the Bible Belt, sadly.
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 09:59 AM by Cuban_Liberal
I've spent lots of time there. Beautiful place, lovely, friendly people, but VERY 'churchy'.
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:26 PM
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5. Not just 'churchy'...
Frighteningly Pentecostally is more like it.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:22 PM
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6. And a fair share of Baptists
;)
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:31 PM
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7. Makes me glad I don't live down there.
I'd have to shoot myself if I had to live there for a protracted period of time.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:04 PM
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8. Oh, it has its charm.
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 06:05 PM by Cuban_Liberal
The people are EXTREMELY nice, and it's absolutely beautiful.

:)
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:10 PM
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9. It is beautiful country, no doubt.
I just don't think I could stand to listen to people talk down there for very long. And they're Cardinals fans! Eww! :P
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:34 PM
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10. What's wrong with being a Cardinals' fan?


:evilgrin:
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:48 PM
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11. What's wrong, you ask?!?
Is that a rhetorical question?? Everything!

You are SO asking for a smackdown. :P
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:50 PM
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12. At least 1/2 of the state is closer to St. Louis than Chicago.
I think downstate got tired of waiting for a World Series win, after a century, so they switched.

;)
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 07:25 PM
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13. Ooh, you're lucky you're so far away.
Don't make bring Nomah down there to whup some sense into ya! :D
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