OK, who wants to do a God Hates Shrimp protest?

[Ian David]

God Hates Shrimp

Shrimp, crab, lobster, clams, mussels, all these are an abomination before the Lord, just as gays are an abomination. Why stop at protesting gay marriage? Bring all of God's law unto the heathens and the sodomites. We call upon all Christians to join the crusade against Long John Silver's and Red Lobster. Yea, even Popeye's shall be cleansed. The name of Bubba shall be anathema. We must stop the unbelievers from destroying the sanctity of our restaurants.

Leviticus 11:9-12 says:
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Deuteronomy 14:9-10 says:
9 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:
10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.

[Theres-a]

1. With all the red tide stuff,the timing is perfect!

[sui generis]

2. gays with big mussels eating shrimp

with lesbians licking lobsters at a clam bake.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah the horror! The hellmouth is real . . .

[handywork]

3. HAHAHA I love it!!!

I always say when people feel like they should take the whole of the bible literally they should do it with every passage!!! If they are going to hate homosexuals they must hate crustacians as well by the same logic!!

[Igel]

5. And there are a number of small fundamentalist

churches that do, indeed, hate shrimp.

[sui generis]

6. god hates figs

http://www.godhatesfigs.com/

next thing you know those dang figs will want to have their own parade and everything.

:evilgrin:

[Igel]

11. The fig-based argument (I'll treat it seriously, why not, the kid's

asleep and I can't do much else) relies on Jesus cursing one fig tree.

Presumably, if the Pharisees and that particular bush were still around we'd be avoiding all figs because we might accidentally get one from that bush. But it's dead, almost certainly.

It's the same argument that says "the Jews" as a whole killed Jesus, or maybe "the Romans" instead of a small set of them.

[sui generis]

14. hey! some of my best friends are figs!

I therefore speak for all figs everywhere when I say that figs should have equal rights too.

Why, I even experimented with a pomegranate and a kiwi once, but we were all drunk.

And once, at band camp, I stuck a fruit in my . . . :blush:


:evilgrin:

[handywork]

8. Are you serious??

I love it...well at least they stand by the whole thing...you've got to respect the tenacity...

[Igel]

13. Yep, and the chunks of Deuteronomy and Leviticus quoted

are the exact same ones cited at the godhatesshrimp site (which was forwarded to me by a member of one of the churches believing this, even before I saw it on DU).

(Full disclosure: I was in such a church for many years, and even though I used to love shrimp and blue crabs--never much liked oysters or clams, and refused to let food snails near me. I still find them all gross to this day, many years after leaving the church.)

They also avoid, although less often, mixed fabrics (simply because it's hard to find linen clothing, much less linen with wool), and don't much farm, but one or two that did didn't mix their seed. And they keep Passover (with bread and wine), not Christmas, and do a thorough job pitching out leavening before Passover.

Consistent. Very much so. Makes a lot of arguments with them difficult.

[handywork]

20. That's very interesting...

Yeah it would make it pretty tough to argue the intricacies if they followed them all.

[Shoeempress]

4. It would be great to have demonstrations in different cities

simutaneously. It would be too funny. I'd do it.

[hobbit709]

7. How many churches

have their Friday night fish-fry eating catfish? Fins AND scales-catfish is an abomination.

[Ian David]

10. That's exactly what I was thinking. A Church fish dinner.

We could also do it outside Old Country Buffet on a Sunday afternoon.

I also thought about dressing-up as Amish and protesting outside a church demanding that they stop using electricity.

Part of the point being that the Amish are convinced that all non-Amish are damned to Hell, but they don't make asses of themselves trying to tell us non-Amish what to do.

But I figured it wasn't worth it to risk upsetting the Amish.

I'm in the middle of researching Old Country Buffet to see if they are Democrat or Republican.

If they're Democrat, I'll suggest protesting elsewhere.

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Old Country Buffet
Buffets Holdings, Inc.
1460 Buffet Way
Eagan, MN 55121 (Map)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Toll Free: 800-871-0956


http://www.buffet.com external site content

http://www.hoovers.com/buffets-holdings/--ID__12815--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml

Corn bread dressing, fish patties, baked beans, hot wings...kneel and pray to the almighty buffet. Buffets Holdings operates one of the country's largest portfolios of buffet restaurants, with about 360 locations in 38 states. Operating mostly under the Old Country Buffet and HomeTown Buffet brands, the company's locations are self-service buffets featuring entrees, sides, and desserts for an all-inclusive price. Its other brands include Granny's Buffet, Country Roadhouse Buffet & Grill, and Tahoe Joe's Famous Steakhouse. In addition to its company-owned restaurant operations, Buffets franchises about 20 locations. Private equity firm Caxton-Iseman Capital owns 79% of the company.

Key People
Chairman Frederick J. (Fred) Iseman
Vice Chairman and CEO Roe H. Hatlen
EVP, CFO, and COO R. Michael Andrews Jr.
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Donor occupation: Old Country Buffet
Cycle(s) selected: 2006, 2004, 2002

VOLTURNO, ANGELO A MR
SOLVAY,NY 13209
OLD COUNTRY BUFFET/RESTAURANT
9/24/2004
$200
National Republican Congressional Cmte

HATLEN, ROE
APPLE VALLEY,MN 55124
BUFFETS INC/OWNER
9/6/2002
$1,000
Kline, John (R)


COURY, DALLOUL
MENDOTA HEIGHTS,MN
BUFFETS INC
3/5/2002
$1,000
Coleman, Norm(R)


SHRADER, MIKE MR
MINNETONKA,MN 55305
BUFFETS INCORPORATED/E.V.P. HUMAN R
6/25/2003
$750
Republican National Cmte

SHRADER, MIKE MR
MINNETONKA,MN 55305
BUFFETS INCORPORATED/E.V.P. HUMAN R
2/4/2004
$250
Republican National Cmte

SHRADER, MIKE MR
MINNETONKA,MN 55305
BUFFETS INCORPORATED/E.V.P. HUMAN R
4/22/2004
$250
Republican National Cmte

FERRIS, ROBERT
ATHERTON,CA 94027
CAXTON-ISEMAN CAPITAL INC
11/1/2004
$500
Jones, Bill (R)

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$1,000
$750
$250
$250
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ISEMAN, FRED J
NEW YORK,NY 10022
CAXTON-ISEMAN CAPITAL INC
7/20/2004
$2,000
Carson, Brad R (D)

ISEMAN, FREDERICK
NEW YORK,NY 10021
CAXTON-ISEMAN CAPITAL
9/29/2003
$25,000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte

ISEMAN, FREDERICK
NEW YORK,NY 10021
CAXTON-ISEMAN CAPITAL
11/15/2004
$10,000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte

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NEW YORK,NY 10011
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ISEMAN, FREDERICK J
NEW YORK,NY 10022
CAXTON-ISEMAN CAPITAL INC
7/13/2004
$2,000
Knowles, Tony(D)

ISEMAN, FREDERICK J
NEW YORK,NY 10022
CAXTON-ISEMAN CAPITAL INC
7/15/2004
$2,000
Tenenbaum, Inez (D)

KUBICKA, RHIANNON T
NEW YORK,NY 10013
CAXTON-ISEMAN CAPITAL/VP
12/5/2003
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NEW YORK,NY 10021
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6/20/2003
$1,000
Boxer, Barbara

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$2,000
$25,000
$10,000
$2,000
$2,000
$2,000
$2,000
$1,650
$1,000

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$47,650 Democrat

[Ian David]

15. OK, maybe not Old Country Buffet. They seem to be Democrat

I'm having trouble researching their holding company, Caxton-Iseman Capital.

So, it could swing the other way into the red.

[PegDAC]

22. It would have to be

at Das Deutschen Essenhaus in Middlebury, Indiana. It's owned by Mennonites and employs predominately Amish, including some of my distant cousins.

[Dr.Phool]

9. Lets man the barricades at Red Lobster!!!!!

[Ian David]

17. Well, we want some place that gets a good "church crowd"

Old Country Buffet is a big after-church destination.

This sunday, check out the local restaurants and look for someplace with a whole lot of women wearing big hats.

[Ian David]

18. I think hese are our best options for God Hates Shrimp

Applebee's International, Inc.
Rating: Dark Red - 6 %
http://www.buyblue.org/detail.php?corpId=228

I am pretty sure Appleby's gets a big after-church crowd

Second choice is Outback Steakhouse, but I don't know if the church-people go there.

Outback Steakhouse, Inc.
Rating: Dark Red - 2 %
http://www.buyblue.org/detail.php?corpId=26

On the other hand, if we did Outback, we could also hold signs that say:

"Outback Steakhouse is Spreading Santorum."
http://www.SpreadingSantorum.com

Just what people want to think about before they eat.

See:

Political Money Line reports the following information about Santorum's March trist down to Florida to appear with the Schiavo family and then raise approximately $250,000.
http://mysite.verizon.net/lardil/id189.html

Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) reported raising $104,500 from individuals and PACs in Florida during the first three months of 2005.

<snip>

About $42,000 of the 3/31intemized donations came from the Miami area, possibly from a 3/29 dinner in Miami.

Tampa itemized donors on 3/31 over $6,000 including $3,000 from the PAC of Outback Steakhouse. These may have come from a 3/30 luncheon in Tampa hosted by Outback according to news reports. The PAC had already given $5,000 in January.

<snip>

The second part of the question is who exactly paid for the fundraisers, since one imagines they require some money for food, rent, etc. It seems implausible to me that Santorum met a group of high dollar donors at the local Outback Steak House and walked table to table collecting checks and shaking hands while each donor picked up their own dinner tab. If someone else paid there would have had to been in-kind paper trail filled out for the events. When a candidate goes somewhere to raise money there is usually a long paper trail of expenses for the event, which Political Money Line explains don't exist on this trip.


More:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/4/19/193231/431

[RalphReedsWreckedEm]

12. How about "God Hates Menstruating Women"

Or how about: "God Hates Pork"

Or maybe: "God Hates Just About Every Damn Thing"

[kweerwolf]

16. Nah ... can't make the shrimp protest ...

... I plan on picketing Wal-Mart for selling clothing of mixed fabrics which is a clear violation of Levitical holiness codes. Besides, I've already got my "Sam Walton Burns in Hell" sign made up.

[Name removed]

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[paineinthearse]

21. Let's do Legal Seafood near the NE Aquarium on a warm weekend evening.

And retire to the Black Rose for a pint or two afterwards!

I'm ready when you are!

[Ian David]

23. I don't think we want to disrupt Legal Seafood's business

Their president, Roger Berkowitz, seems to be a big Democrat supporter.

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Besides, we want some place that gets a whole lot of church traffic.

To sum up, here is what we need:

1) Shell fish
2) Church people
3) Republican-owned company

I'm thinking now maybe IHOP, but their donations to the Republicans are very small (less than $3,000).
http://www.buyblue.org/detail.php?corpId=216

In any case, think of places that get a whole lot of church traffic, and we'll research sites from there.

[paineinthearse]

24. Agree....I was only suggesing Legal due to its location and public traffic

Agree with the target market:

1) Shell fish
2) Church people
3) Republican-owned company

Here are several candidates in the Boston area - http://www.discoverourtown.com/TownPage.php?Town=1894&Cat=Dining

Seafood
Anthony's Pier 4 140 Northern Avenue, Boston, MA 02210, 617-482-6262, Anthony’s Pier 4 is known as one of Boston's most prestigious culinary landmarks and has featured incomparable selections and innovative preparations for over thirty seven years. The menu features Maine lobster, fresh New England seafood, imported Dover sole, prime steaks and a wine list comprised of more than five hundred selections; the dining room offers exquisite views of Boston Harbour and the city skyline.

Atlantic Fish Company 761 Boylston Street, Boston, MA 02116, 617-267-4000, One of Boston's finest seafood restaurants, Atlantic Fish Company features award-winning New England Clam Chowder and Maine Lobster pot pie.

Grillfish 162 Columbus Avenue, Boston, MA 02116, 617-357-1620, This restaurant features fresh grilled fish, pasta dishes, an open kitchen and grill, and an oversized stone bar.

KingFish Hall South Market Building, Boston, MA 02109, Faneuil Hall, 617-523-8862, Open late night, and with reservations being recommended, this seafood restaurant offers everything from sushi and a raw bar, to whole fish that is prepared on a “fish dancer” rotisserie.

Legal Sea Foods 100 Huntington Avenue, Boston, MA 02116, Copley Place, 617-266-7775, With two additional locations in Boston, this restaurant has been a Boston tradition for over fifty years and serves the finest and freshest seafood; one can indulge in the creamy clam chowder, succulent lobster, fresh swordfish, or any other favourite dishes in the casual, relaxed atmosphere.

McCormick & Schmick's Seafood Restaurant North Building, Boston, MA 02109, Faneuil Hall Marketplace, 617-720-5522, McCormick and Schmick's offers more than thirty varieties of seafood that utilize the freshest fish and other ingredients.

Skipjack's Seafood Emporium 199 Clarendon Street, Boston, MA 02116, 617-536-3500, At Skipjack’s one can enjoy fresh grilled seafood, including blackened tuna sashimi, moonfish, Maryland crab cakes, lobsters, and a delicious but heart-healthy menu that is low in calories, cholesterol, and sodium.

[Ian David]

25. I like the fact that they're in the heart of the tourist area. Good idea!

That might be even better than just targeting someplace that gets a lot of church traffic.

Let me see if I can research political leanings on those.

[Ian David]

26. OK, Atlantic Fish Company should be a VERY good choice

Atlantic Fish Company is owned by Back Bay Restaurant Group, Inc., which also owns:

Papa Razzi
Joe's American Bar & Grill
Charley's
Coach Grill
Abe & Louie's
Atlantic Fish Company
http://tinyurl.com/8yhse



I couldn't find any political donations for them, one good and one bad.

First, the good: The CEO, Charles F. Sarkis, donated books to the needy.
http://tinyurl.com/arkvc

Now, the bad: The CEO, Charles F. Sarkis, is the principal share holder in The Westwood Group, which owns the Wonderland Greyhound Park in Revere, MA
http://www.hoovers.com/westwood-group/--ID__130957--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml
http://www.greyhoundracingsucks.com/grs_wsj_article.htm

I'm sure a whole lot of DU people aren't a big fan of Greyhound racing.

We could probably get the animal rights people to join us.

[Ian David]

27. McCormick & Schmick's is a HUGE Republican donor

Plus, they're right in Faneuil Hall, which will give us A LOT of tourist traffic.

McCormick & Schmick's Seafood Restaurant North Building, Boston, MA 02109, Faneuil Hall Marketplace, 617-720-5522, McCormick and Schmick's offers more than thirty varieties of seafood that utilize the freshest fish and other ingredients.


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McCormick & Schmick's Seafood Restaurants, Inc. (NASDAQ: MSSR)
720 SW Washington St., Ste. 550
Portland, OR 97205 (Map)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

http://www.mccormickandschmicks.com

M&S Grill
McCormick's Fish House & Bar
Spenger's Fresh Fish Grotto

Between $67,824 to $72,824 depending on how you calculate his $5,000 donation to The National Restaurant Assn., all of it Republican.

This company uses seafood as bait to lure customers to its restaurants. McCormick & Schmick owns and operates 52 upscale casual-dining spots that offer fish and other seafood dishes from its approximately 90-dish menu. Located in 22 US states, the restaurants operate primarily under the McCormick & Schmick's Seafood Restaurant brand, while other locations carry such names as M&S Grill, McCormick's Fish House & Bar, and Spenger's Fresh Fish Grotto. Each restaurant offers a full-service bar and regionally distinct menu items. Bill McCormick and Doug Schmick started the company in 1979.

Company Type Public (NASDAQ: MSSR)

Key People
Chairman Emeritus William P. (Bill) McCormick
Chairman and President Douglas L. (Doug) Schmick
CEO and Director Saed Mohseni
CFO and Secretary
Director, Marketing
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SCHMICK, DOUGLAS L MR
PORTLAND,OR 97205
MC CORMICK & SCHMICK/CEO
7/24/2003
$2,000
Bush, George W


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Zip: 97219
Cycle(s) selected: 2006, 2004, 2002
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MCCORMICK, WILLIAM
PORTLAND,OR 97219
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2/19/2004
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Republican Party of Oregon

MCCORMICK, WILLIAM
PORTLAND,OR 97219
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3/12/2004
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Portland,OR 97219
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Portland,OR 97219
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MCCORMICK, WILLIAM
PORTLAND,OR 97219
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Zupanic, James D (R-OR)

MCCORMICK, WILLIAM
PORTLAND,OR 97219
MCCORMICK
11/5/2004
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Republican Federal Cmte of Pennsylvania

MCCORMICK, WILLIAM
PORTLAND,OR 97219
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3/30/2002
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MCCORMICK, WILLIAM
PORTLAND,OR 97219
MCCORMICK & SCHMICKS
3/30/2002
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MCCORMICK, WILLIAM P MR
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MCCORMICK, WILLIAM
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Cain, Herman (R-GA)

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MCCORMICK, WILLIAM P
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[paineinthearse]

28. BINGO!!!!!!!!

Let's do it.

I'll be in Cambridge for the River Festival, may be returning Sunday. Is this weekend too soon?

[Ian David]

29. Yeah, that's way too soon. How about 4th of July weekend? n/t