Whoopsie. 17 Vikings in alleged sex party; stadium deal in jeopardy.

[Deja Q]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/244415_nfln13.html

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- Investigators are looking into a party attended by 17 Minnesota Vikings players that allegedly involved drunkenness, nudity and visible sexual activity on a pair of charter cruises last week.

No criminal charges had been filed as of Wednesday, and it could take a couple of weeks before investigators finish interviewing people who were on the boats, said Sgt. Haans Vitek of the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office. A police report was filed Sunday.

"It doesn't make things any simpler," coach Mike Tice said Wednesday, "and quite frankly I'm not happy about it."

Yo Tice, just what does it take to make thing simple for you? A coloring book with pictures of the alleged events for you to fill in?!

"If the allegations are true, it's awful," said Gov. Tim Pawlenty...

Yo Timmy, you said you didn't want the vikes to lose a stadium on "your watch". So why aren't you watching them? :D Or was that the twins? Never mind, you'd bulldoze residential zones left and right and replace them all with stadiums if you could, I'd fear... one for every day of the week and one for every mood.


The scandal has put the team's bid for a new stadium and its standing among fans and community leaders in jeopardy.

They don't need taxpayer funds for one thing...

The team released a one-paragraph statement Tuesday saying: "The organization has been made aware of the allegations involving our players and we take these allegations very seriously. We are working diligently to gather as many facts as possible. At this time, we have no further comment."

Yes, yes. You lot were supposedly concenred too when Randy Moss hit a cop with his car. An act that'd land any working-class person into prison for a long cozy period of time.

Not that I care about consentual sex, but if you guys did want to leech off of our taxpayer money, the least you can do is act like a bunch of grown-ups. But I'm glad you didn't. As with the Twins, if your leaders can afford to give your players millions of millions just to fondle a ball on a wide-open stetch of land for two hours a pop, you lot can pay for your own bloody stadium too. You don't need our help. (and don't raise the prices in the process; businesses are suppoosed to take hits from time to time and not always shove the cost onto the consumers. That's unethical, to say ther very least.)

[hermetic]

1. Ya got that right!

Hey Hypno, I thought you were gone. Can you pm me?

[kikiek]

2. To set the record straight Moss didn't hit a cop. It was a meter monitor

type person called a traffic control agent. They are not officers. And most likely the reason he didn't get charged was because he didn't run her over and she wasn't exactly following procedure either. He was leaving a parking ramp. She should have let him go and taken his license number not jumped onto his car. They aren't supposed to try and physically stop vehicles not following their directions. This is not an unusual incident unfortunately it happens frequently. People take out road rage on them a lot. Fine if you want to make a case against the publicly funded stadium, but the facts stand on their own without distortion.

[dflprincess]

3. And it inspired the St Paul Saints to give away

Randy Moss hood ornaments at one of their games.

[kikiek]

4. Wish I had gotten one.

[Deja Q]

6. Me too.

I'd nudge it with my car and then get arrested for littering on a public roadway, along with reckless driving...

[Deja Q]

5. Oh, then it was okay for him to do it then.

As for the rest of it, while facts are the most valid things, cars are for responsible, civilized people. I don't care who, you don't run them over or even nudge them a teensy tad with them.

I'd like to see you get into a car and do what Moss did. You'd be thrown into the slammer for a good period of time, I'd suspect.

[Berserker]

7. 17 Minnesota Vikings players get blow jobs

in middle of Minnesota lake at night. This is what the headline should have said. Big fucking deal. So what.
I get so fucking tired of hearing about the sex parties and Moss. How many other teams do this shit? I would bet LOTS of them. That does not make it right but it sure as hell goes on.
Clinton got a blow job and we still hear about to this day.
BIG FUCKING DEAL
Moss squirts water at and official
Moss touches and official with back of hand
Moss walks off field with 2 seconds to go
Moss runs over a cop
Moss pretends to pull pants down at a shit hole stadium
MOSS MOSS MOSS MOSS MOSS MOSS MOSS MOSS
Oh and hey packer fans Moss is gone now he was traded to Oakland.
Sports figures ARE NOT role models they are entertainers.
Parents are ROLE models just in case packer fans are confused about that.

[dflprincess]

10. If this had gone on at one of the Vikings' homes - or their own boat

I'd agree with you. What consenting adults do behind closed doors is nobody's business.

But this happened on a rented boat with hired staff - basically in a public place. And, apparently some of the staff felt threatend by the behavior.

There was also a report to the Mound police by a woman who saw a limo stop in front of her house, watched several men get out of the limo and then urinate on her lawn.

[kikiek]

8. I didn't condone anything. And no I wouldn't be thrown into the slammer

for a good period of time either. The traffic agents have rules for a reason. They aren't capable of stopping cars. They shouldn't try to. The cops take care of the violators. You have to be pretty stupid to stand in front of a car to the point of jumping on the hood to stop them. Sounds like she didn't belong in her job either. At any rate the behavior of a handful of the current team has nothing to do with stadiums. If they were angels you wouldn't say we should build it. The reason we shouldn't pay for any stadium is why would we? We have people without health insurance, underfunded schools, lack of affordable housing, lack of decent wage jobs, etc etc. I don't believe in attacking people with non or half truths. Especially when they have nothing to do with the argument.

[MsAnthropy]

9. Here's just a partial list of Viking misbehavior

From Jim Souhan's Strib column:

In the past 20 years, the Vikings have compiled a remarkable off-field résumé. The following list does not even qualify as a Cliffs Notes version. It has been heavily edited because the Star Tribune redesign does not allow stories long enough to fill a phone book:

• Between 1986 and 1990, nine Vikings were arrested for drunken driving, and receiver Buster Rhymes was treated for cocaine dependency.

• In 1988,, citing "overwhelming negative response" from the public, the Vikings released convicted sex offender Mossy Cade.

• In 1995, running back Keith Henderson pleaded guilty to three counts of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct.

• In 1995, quarterback Warren Moon reached an out-of-court agreement with a former team cheerleader who alleged that he forced her to have sex with him and harassed her. Moon had denied the allegations and prepared a countersuit.

• That year, Moon allegedly struck his wife in the head with an open hand and choked her to the point where she almost passed out, according to police in Missouri City, Texas.

She did not press charges and, although the case went to trial anyway, Moon was found not guilty.

• In 1995, the Star Tribune reported that the Vikings paid $150,000 to head off a sexual harassment suit against Vikings assistant coach Richard Solomon, coach Dennis Green's closest friend on the staff.

• In 1999, safety Orlando Thomas was disciplined by the NFL after pleading no contest to the misdemeanor charge of simple battery on his wife.

• In 2002, receiver Randy Moss knocked a traffic cop to the ground with his car, then was charged with drug possession. He later reached an out-of-court settlement with the officer.

• In 2002, two women claimed to be sexually assaulted at the team's Arctic Blast fundraiser.

• In 2004, linebackers E.J. Henderson and Michael Nattiel and tight end Steve Farmer were arrested after officers said they saw the players assaulting a man outside the Tabu nightclub in Minneapolis.

• In 2005, running back Onterrio Smith was suspended by the NFL for a year for violating the league's substance abuse policy, two months after being caught at an airport with The Original Whizzinator, a kit designed to circumvent drug tests.

• Also in 2005, coach Mike Tice was fined by the NFL for scalping Super Bowl tickets, and defensive tackle Kevin Williams was arrested on charges of domestic abuse.


What a dysfunctional group.

[Berserker]

11. Here's and Idea

Let's not just tear the Vikings a new one let's do all 32 TEAMS !!!!!
So what is the point of all this Viking bashing?

packers
Aug. 2005: Ahman Green reached a plea agreement for assault and domestic violence charges related to an incident in which he grabbed his wife around the neck.

Oct. 2, 2004: MIAMI -- A woman sued Green Bay Packers fullback Najeh Davenport, saying he invaded her privacy by breaking into her dorm room and defecating in her closet. (Now there is some class)

2000: Mark Chmura: Allegations of having sexual relations on April 8, 2000 at a high school prom party with the then 17-year-old babysitter of his children. Ultimately, Chmura was tried and found not guilty of all charges <1>. Two days after being acquitted of child enticement and third-degree sexual assault,
Mark Chmura acknowledged that his behavior at a post-prom party "wasn't something a married man should do."
In 1998, Chmura refused to meet with United States President Bill Clinton at the White House following the Packers Super Bowl XXXII win. Chmura, a popular fixture at Republican fund-raisers, said at the time that he had lost respect for President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky scandal and could not bear to shake his hand.

1996: Brett Favre: Entered the NFL's substance-abuse program in May to be treated for an addiction to painkillers.
Favre also can't use alcohol for two years and recently told the Green Bay Press-Gazette that he is being tested for drugs and alcohol as often as four times a week.

So what is the point of this? This could go back years and years for EVERY team in the NFL not just the VIKINGS

[MsAnthropy]

12. What other teams do is irrelevant

since it's my tax dollars going to continually build them new stadiums every time they get the itch, my money that goes to pay for overpriced tickets to pay these overpaid, spoiled, incompetent buffoons, who have now made Minnesota the laughingstock of the entire country, and its Minnesota kids who look up to Minnesota athletes as role models. That's the point of Vikings-bashing.

[Berserker]

14. "What other teams do is irrelevant"?

It's Minnesota Parent's like myself that teach them that million dollar sports figures are not to be looked up to they are entertainers and thats all they are. Your post seemed to implicate that the Vikings were the only team that has problems. Until ALL the facts are in I will stick with my previous post.
And please show me where your tax dollars are building the Vikings stadiums every time they get the "itch"

[MsAnthropy]

15. Every minute our legislature wastes on discussing stadiums

is tax money out of my pocket, when they could be solving real problems like education and health care. Every time they call a special session to discuss stadiums because they couldn't get their jobs done because they were wasting time discussing stadiums, it's tax money out of my pocket. Every tax dollar planned for "infrastructure" around the stadium that's going to be built in Blaine--whether we like it or not--is tax money out of my pocket.

[grannylib]

13. I hope nobody is foolish enough to think that billionaire owners and

millionaire players are deserving of ANY public funds to pay for what they can afford themselves. Fuck them all.
I am sick to death of overpaid underperformers whining about feeding their families or having to "do what's right for me" (meaning wring every last cent possible out of their contracts, under which they get paid whether they play, are hurt, are on the bench, whatever...) while the people on whose backs those billionaire owners made their fortunes are applying for food stamps and housing assistance and fuel assistance, because their wages are so regressive and anti-family.