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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:34 PM
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'President-side down' - how to insert ballot into machine.
An election-official woman was standing near the ballot machine where I voted telling each voter to insert the ballot 'President-side down.'

It probably would have been simpler to put a sign on the machine.

I don't recall being told which way to insert the ballot the previous times I voted in MN.

Does the machine spit it out if you put it in facing the wrong way?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 01:01 PM
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1. I wasn't told to that this morning.
And I'd be pretty sure I put it in the machine "president side up" - as I was admiring my ballot and my votes as I walked over to the maching. (Actually I was obsessively checking it to make sure I had the right circles filled in).

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 01:17 PM
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2. Do you think the machine can read the ballot either way?
Or is it president-side down in some precincts and president-side up in other precincts?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 01:32 PM
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4. Like you, I've never had instructions on how to feed the ballot into the counter
so it must be able to read it either way - especially as it is a 2 sided ballot this year. If it made a difference, surely other election judges would be telling people how to feed it in. I know the machines will spit out a ballot immediately (I mean while you're still standing there) if it can't read it or if there is a stray mark on it somewhere.

Maybe they had a picky machine at your precinct or - maybe they have an anal retentave election judge who wants all the ballots facing one way in case they have to reconcile them tonight?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 01:32 PM
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3. I submitted mine president side up and no one told me otherwise.
I haven't heard of that before.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 01:38 PM
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5. The election judge at my voting site
just said, "stick it in...either side up is fine."
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 01:57 PM
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6. I asked the election official which way I should insert it
and he said that either way was fine but that it seemed to work better "judge side up."
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 03:41 PM
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7. She was wrong
The tabulator will read the ballot anyway you insert it.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 08:58 PM
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8. You're probably right, but how do you know that? NT
NT
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 09:15 PM
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9. I've been an election judge and the tabulators
are programed that way - to read the ballots from any possible position.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 09:20 PM
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10. Does that include if the words are upside-down to the person inserting the ballot? NT
NT
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 09:33 PM
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11. In Minneapolis, which is all I can vouch for,
words upside down would be accepted. the tabulators have to be programed so that a person can put it in independently without some one looking over his/her shoulder. when i helped test the machines, that was one thing that was done to make sure they were working correctly.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 09:35 PM
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12. OK, thanks. NT
NT
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