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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 02:03 PM
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Fooled again: Pioneer Press to endorse Bush.
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 02:03 PM by Dickie Flatt
"But when they are held up side by side, it is clear to us that Bush has the sharper vision for a prosperous and safe 21st century."

"We believe he will lead the country with decisiveness that Kerry cannot muster."

"Bush displays strength and resolve necessary to vanquish our foes and keep America safe. He is the better choice to lead America in the next four years."

letters@pioneerpress.com
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dodger501 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 02:09 PM
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1. You gotta be @#$%ing me!!!
When I moved to the St. Paul suburbs 10 years ago I subscribed to the Pioneer Porn until 2000 when they endorsed the Monkey then. I dropped them like a hot rock and have been with the Strib ever since.

What utter fools.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 02:24 PM
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2. Sad to hear.
St Paul has always been more conservative than Minneapolis but I hoped the Pioneer Press had seen the light.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 02:52 PM
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3. Still, what minor ventures I've made into St. Paul tell me that
Kerry is going to win there, too.

By the way, I know a former Pioneer Press reporter who quit in disgust a couple of years ago at the way management was treating the reporters and handling the news.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 07:41 PM
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11. Many reporters have bailed
for the Strib. Couldn't take it any more.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 08:26 PM
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14. Isn't that the reason Nick Coleman went to the Strib?
n/t
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Krupskaya Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 03:00 PM
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4. What tripe.
"We believe he will lead the country with decisiveness that Kerry cannot muster."

Well, when is he going to start doing that? He's had four fucking years!


Every time the PP calls me to solicit a subscription I tell them I will have none of it because the company is a union-busting piece of crap. Now I have one more reason!
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:10 PM
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5. Purely pandering to Bush* voters to increase their subscriptions...
How they can endorse the idiot considering this war? I have a subcription (my wife like the crossword puzzle). Now I have to reconsider. St. Paul is far more intellectual than its paper.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 04:54 PM
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6. they did it! a f*****ng full page!
convoluted logic at every turn.
here's one permanently cancelled subscription!

they have tried to paint themselves as the more 'moderate' alternative to the star-trib, but this piece exposes them as nothing more than fawning Bush sycophants. The piece could have been written by the campaign, f'chrissakes!

and they run it Oct. 31, leaving readers with no time to respond....way to go, assholes.
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 06:00 PM
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8. Write your letter tonight
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bucknaked Donating Member (818 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 05:42 PM
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7. Why the hell does this paper call itself the ST PAUL Pioneer Press?
This paper doesn't reflect the city at all.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 07:43 PM
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12. Will not go over well
St. Paul is a DFL town.
There is a recall effort underway to recall the the mayor who is a traitor. Elected as a democrat and endorsed Bush.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:45 AM
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15. It's ridiculous
"decisiveness"???? Yeah--all the WRONG decisions for America! LOTS of Kerry-Edwards signs out. Much fewer Bush-Cheney. However, lots of yards with NO signs. Have been working with GOTV in my precinct and showing only 1 in 10 for *.
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 06:57 PM
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9. letter sent!
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 07:01 PM
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10. I also stopped buying
it a long time ago. I Never will again they can kiss my democratic Ass
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 07:50 PM
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13. I can't even read it
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 07:51 PM by katinmn
I picked it up at the store. Set it down. Picked it up again and bought it. But I can't open it.

The front page is FLAGRANT propaganda. Here are the headlines, all on the front page, from left to right:
"Polls show Nader may sink Kerry: Consumer Advocate says that Gore's 200 loss was his own fault" (with a photo of Nader with his head bowed in a Jesus pose)
"GOP likely to keep House reins: Across the country Democrats are struggling in campaigns" (Oh yeah?)
"Economics at center of flu shot shortage" (apologism)

This shit has been going on for months. It is a rag, not good enough for a bird cage.

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:52 AM
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16. Here is my letter
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 04:53 AM by Carolab
As a long-time resident of St. Paul, I am ashamed at your endorsement of "President" Bush. This traditional Democratic stronghold has certainly shown its disdain for Mayor Kelly masquerading as a Democrat in making public his support for Bush. How can you claim to be the "paper of record" for Minnesota's capitol while being so patently unaware of its political pulse?

Further, your statements show a clear lack of judgment about what constitutes responsible and representative political leadership. Bush shows not merely utter disregard but complete contempt for the working class of this nation, as evidenced in his blatant favoritism of corporations and the wealthy "haves and have mores", as he himself describes his self-proclaimed "base". Under his "leadership", this country has suffered a net loss of over one million jobs--more than any president since Herbert Hoover--as outsourcing and privatization continue unabated and even openly encouraged. Income tax cuts have benefited the upper 1% of this nation's population, while rising expenses for such necessities as health care and Medicare, concurrent with deep slashes in vital domestic programs, have driven up the cost of living and driven down the standard of living for middle and lower class citizens. Meanwhile, we can all look forward to increasing property taxes to close the gap in federal funding support, while our already deteriorating civil infrastructure continues to weaken.

You say that Bush "displays strength and resolve" and "decisiveness" for being "decisive and resolute". As Senator Kerry has said, "one can be strong and be wrong". Bush made a disastrously wrong decision to abandon efforts in Afghanistan to track down terrorists and capture Osama bin Laden "dead or alive" in order to attack Saddam Hussein and begin an unwanted occupation of Iraq. As has been pointed out time and again, Hussein had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack nor did he have any weapons of mass destruction programs or any substantive connection to al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations. Yet, repeatedly, Bush refuses to admit his mistakes in misleading our nation and the world into this catastrophic situation which has cost us nearly $200 billion dollars, over 1100 military lives and 100,000 Iraqi lives. Meanwhile, with each passing day that bin laden remains "at large", the insurgency continues to grow, while our nation is at greater risk and our international support is at an all-time low.

Moreover, the nation's corporately consolidated media continue to distort Kerry's record and campaign positions, aiding and abetting the fallacious "flip-flop" charge, while continually giving Bush a "pass". Most notable is their collective reluctance to point out how he has repeatedly shifted his rationale for why we went to war, stubbornly clinging to each reason before finally yielding to the facts. Indeed, the final reason given--to foster freedom and democracy--is in direct contradiction to his stated position against "nation building" proffered in the 2000 campaign. After defending a "Defense of Marriage" amendment in order to woo Christian conservatives, he announced on national television in an interview with Charlie Gibson that he is, in fact, not against gay marriage. Numerous other examples can be found in his unfunded support for the No Child Left Behind program, his abandonment of numerous industry environmental regulations resulting in record high levels of mercury emissions and escalating "global warnings" worldwide, and the lack of adequate funding for Homeland Security as well as a reluctance to fully and swiftly implement the 9-11 Commission's recommendations.

Where, indeed, in all of this, is Bush's "sharper vision for a prosperous and safe 21st Century"? How, exactly, has he proven he can "vanquish our foes and keep America safe"? In what way is he the "better choice to lead America for the next four years"?

(my name)
St. Paul, MN
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:46 PM
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17. Great letter!
How can they explain away Bush's lie to get us into a war, the bungling of that war, of the deficit and tax cuts to the weathiest and multinations during war?

I have no idea how they can justify their endorsement.

BTW, I noticed they toned down the right wing propaganda on the front page between the early editions of the Sunday paper that were out on Saturday and the ones out today. They probably got a big arse chewing and it's not going to let up.
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Pig_Latin_Lover Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:54 PM
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18. The decisiveness to run this country into the ground
Vanquishing our foes! Keeping America safe!
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SudieJD Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:05 PM
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19. They'll Never Get...
another penny of my money! I just finished reading the Sunday paper and got physically sick! UGH!

Sudie in MN
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brads Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:08 PM
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20. I cancelled my subscription Sunday
I have been a Pioneer Press subscriber for four years. When I saw the Bush endorsement on Sunday, I called immediately to cancel my subscription and tell them why. I live in St Paul and really want to subscribe to the St Paul paper, but for them to endorse Bush after the illegal war & occupation in Iraq based on lies, and after everything else that's happened the last 4 years is just beyond the pale. Especially in a city like St Paul, where every precinct but one voted against Bush in 2000, and it will almost certainly look that way again tomorrow. It's pathetic.
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hermetic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:24 PM
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21. And that's not all
"two Pioneer Press reporters had been suspended by newspaper management for attending the October 5 Vote for Change concert at the Xcel Energy Center."
http://www.citypages.com/databank/25/1247/article12597.asp

They'll never see another cent from me either.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:17 PM
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22. NYC has the POST, DC has the TIMES, Twin Cities has the Pioneer Press
Does every metropolitan area have a reich-wing rag?
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