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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:19 PM
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I just called and resigned from the DFL
I say this with tears streaming down my face. I have voted Democrat my whole 53 years. I raised my sons to appreciate what they had and vote their conscience. I joined and supported the party in the mid 1990's and worked on a few campaigns as my health allowed. I don't know what I will do but I will NEVER support any Democrat with the exception is those who stood up today and in 2000.

The DFL through Sen Dayton has abetted the fascists allowing them to steal our democracy through corrupt appointed judges, corporate funded smear campaigns, corporate/cia take over of the MSM, true terror and fraud over the last 15 years. Dayton not only did not stand up he criticized those who did. Lip service by the DNC has led to treason and destruction of America. There is now no political way we are going to get back what we lost. America, including Minnesota, is officially fascist rubber stamped by our own Sen Dayton.

(Please note I will not be back here for a good while to read any replies. I need to figure out how I will spend what remains of my life.)

A.T.E.T.Y.D.T.T.T.C.B.T.Y.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:22 PM
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1. Hey
This is only the first shot fire in this battle. Stay when the dust settle give him the boot lol
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:27 PM
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2. It is amazing you would give up after this.
Pathetic.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:40 PM
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3. You know, people have to deal with this the way they can. I hate
it when people criticize others for their authentic feelings. Let her have her moment. She can come back or not.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:15 PM
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4. Please don't let Daytons actions today define everything the Party
has done.

:hug:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:28 PM
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5. I'm sorry. This was an important day. I think I understand.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 08:32 PM
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6. I understand
After I heard Mark's comments today I was ready to throw up my hands and say "What's the use?".

On the other hand, I caught him on CSPAN earlier this morning, talking about Iraq and saying it was time for the administration to stop lying.

I figure I'll hang in there a little longer, but it's getting harder to do.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:57 PM
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7. This strikes me as short-sighted
Granted, people will lament the woeful tides of change (or not) the way their internal clock sees fit, but "leaving" seems less critical now than "ousting" might be.

The way I look at it, there are only two great ships on the seas of US politics today. One great ship has been taken over by the PNAC pirates, who are raping and pillaging and marauding as fast as they can before Peak Oil and a restored democratic (to say nothing of legal justice) system catches up with them.

The other great ship is, unfortunately, under the effete hand of a feckless band of mannequins masquerading as leaders while secretly wishing for the "potency" so damagingly displayed by the marauding pirates crushing all things dear.

There are no other boats on the ocean bigger than tiny rowboats, though the bombast displayed by many of the munchkins pontificating about the lofty (yet practically unobtainable) goals that are espoused by the powerless spear-fishers in their leaky rowboats oft sparks nostalgic whimsy in the hearts of those who remember or long for better days. The minuscule crews in their tiny bowls sometimes even score a walrus or two along the way, too, causing loud and boisterous catcalls (that fade into the ocean and nearly no one hears) about how real and effective these new floating motes actually are.

They're not. Though on occasion one or the other of the massive piloted crafts catches a glimpse of and expropriates a method or an idea of the lesser groups, and uses it to further marginalize the tiny, wishful warriors in their wave-tossed crafts.

The only prize worth having on this political ocean of transformational change is control of one of the major vessels, since from that control is launched all meaningful political progress.

What that means is that when these politicians, under the hypnotic spell of the neutered Rasputins of corporate whoredom, disappoint, the answer must be a commitment to redouble the effort to infiltrate, isolate, and depose those ineffective nonleaders, not to leave and grant them further privilege to pilot this major craft.

Only one fully operational ship can counter the actions of the other. There are no "suicide bombers" in the tiny rowboats of this ocean.

The captains of the drifting major vessel are engaged in kow-towing worship of their false god of corporate profit über alles. Distracted in their duties, they barely notice that the ship is drifting toward the rocks.

Control of this ship is the goal of every progressive and activist taking a long-term view of the dire straits in which we find ourselves today.

Building a support system, a constituency, to undergird the activities of those for whom passive surrender to the wicked winds of corporate control of politics is no longer an option, is the best way to build a base that can sustain progressive control of the ship once we have it.

Ultimately controlling, but in the interim influencing, the course of that great ship will facilitate the election of populist, common sense politicians attuned to the voices of this newly inspired community.

Will it work? Maybe.

Will having control create transformational political change? Maybe.

Either way it's better than sitting the struggle out, or dissipating our efforts between tiny progressive groups that will never attain major political effect, and giant political groups that have lost their way.

The most effective means forward is to focus on making one group a truly effective opposition to the other.

Stay or go, progressive Democrats are moving forward.

http://www.pdamerica.org

http://www.progressivecaucus.net

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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hermetic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:58 PM
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8. Wow. Well put DPB
Made me a little sea sick though.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:42 PM
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9. Excellent comments, Dan!
I'd like to throw this into the mix, and I think it is "on board" with what you said so eloquently.

Power Play
By Don Hazen, AlterNet. Posted January 7, 2005.
The battle for the “soul of the Democratic Party” has begun, with the opening skirmishes over Howard Dean and reproductive rights.

exerpt:
If you are a progressive, a populist Democrat, someone who thinks moving the party to the center is a dead end in this political debate, then it may be time to step up and make yourself heard. Not doing so may very well leave the fate of the party in the hands of the “Democratic Establishment” – the consultants, lobbyists, and corporate-funded talking heads and spinners. As the debate for the “soul of the party” heats up, we may yet see a very different Democratic Party emerging from the ashes of 2004.

http://www.alternet.org/story/20922 /
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:16 PM
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10. Very good points Dan.
I've been involved since '72 and it does get hard to keep at it sometimes when it seems like we keep taking one step forward and two back. But I know, in the long run, I couldn't live with myself if I gave up now.

My previous post was written in a moment of frustration.
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