Ohio Poll from UC: Kerry's up 48-46

[Eurobabe]

That's why Bu$h bailed on OH, he knows his last chance is FLA!!!

Unfortunately it looks like Voinovich is way ahead of Fingerhut though...

http://www.ipr.uc.edu/PDF/OhioPoll/2004_Elect_101904.pdf

[freetobegay]

1. Florida's ripe for the picking (no pun intended)

Just ask Jeb.

[Philostopher]

2. Fingerhut didn't have a chance.

Voinovich's 'Q Factor' (universal recognition) is too high. They'd have to run Martin Sheen against that old warhorse to find somebody with enough recognition they didn't have to buy to beat him. I don't like it, but it's true -- he was mayor of Cleveland, then governor, and he's been in the senate; his craggy old face has been plastered all over for too long for anybody as young and relatively unseen as Fingerhut to overcome that.

That being said, I don't think much of Voinovich as a senator (though as governor, he was a zero sum game), but he's not as obvious a tool as DeWine. Voinovich relies on plenty of Dem votes because he's willing to dissent from the Gooper line just enough to fake the appearance that he's 'his own man.'

Wow, that UC poll showing Kerry ahead is a real shock -- Kerry was way behind, like eleven to fifteen points, last time I saw a poll from UC. (on edit -- it was eleven, it was the September poll -- glad to see I remembered correctly!) Expect a lot of fraud/intimidation in downtown districts in the 3Cs (Cleveland, Cincinnati and Columbus). Probably Dayton, too. Don't know what the minority populations of other fifty/fifty cities are -- the smaller cities in the NE corner of the state probably weren't worth Gooper money anyway.

Is it wrong to laugh, when I look at the polling methodology and see the African American numbers? 3% Bush*, 95% Kerry, the rest 'undecided.' Only thing that's not funny about it is, that means they'll target minority precincts for their suppression efforts.

[AngryOldDem]

5. Isn't the UC poll the one that 's usually skewed in some way?

>>Wow, that UC poll showing Kerry ahead is a real shock >>

Yeah, I know all polls suck, but I recall UC coming into special criticism. If the UC poll is indeed accurate, this could be significant.

And I also think you're right about concentrating the suppression efforts in minority precincts -- frankly, I think they're playing with fire if they do this. 2000 WILL NOT happen again.

And yes, Voinovich is another example of the Ohio Lazy Voter Syndrome -- if you've got name recognition, you've got the job for life.

And, while I'm all over the place in this post, what did you think of the DDN's criticism of Mike Turner on yesterday's editorial page?

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

6. The UC Ohio Poll is supposed to skew to the consevative side

I guess they reflect the more conservative nature of SW Ohio?

[Kukesa]

3. Hallelujah! Hope is on the way.

Hey, crozet, when you finally do move to beautiful SW Ohio, all of us local DUers will have to get together for coffee.

[Eurobabe]

4. i'll be out tomorrow - monday

checking things out, signing papers. bringing my offensive magnetic bumper stickers! LOL...

can't wait to meet y'all!

[desi]

7. Hi again crozet...

...you coming up Chardon way..??? We are being bombarded with Smearvet Liars for Boosh ads. One is a new nasty one that even questions his Purple Heart. LaTourette also started running negative ads against Capri Cafaro...BUT...the local CBS station "somehow" got hold of some video showing LaTourette "shacking up" with his honey....payback is rich..LOL

[Eurobabe]

8. not this trip unfortunately...

will only be in Cincy and then over to P'bgh to see daughters at UPitt. How's the fall colors up your way?