Dayton, the Gem City..& the Miami Valley.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

How GOP is it? Pretty GOP.

But there is a Democratic mayor in Dayton.

[liberalnurse]

1. Northern Dayton and Central Dayton

is dominate Democratic..... but the southern suburbs....where the yuppie money is....you will find republicans.....then there are the "Joe Six-Pak from east Dayton...repubican mis-informed.....



I'm North Dayton in the suburbs.

[chrisesq]

2. I went to school in North Dayton

Northmont to be precise.

Left there in 88 (right after graduation) and have barely set a foot in that area since.

[Kukesa]

3. Washington Twp.

I live in the Washington Township/Centerville area and am pretty sure I'm the last living liberal in these here parts; I'm way too old to be a yuppie.

Good to know there are a few of us enlightened folks in the Dayton area.

Kukesa

[Philostopher]

4. Ah, I don't know.

I'm in Kettering, here. I hear an awful lot of grumbling here, a few miles up the road from you. Our biggest problem is that Montgomery County has let its Democratic party machine rust out because they didn't need to have one, when Tony Hall was around, and they were sleeping at the wheel when he retired. Wingnuts are always louder -- it takes the place of having to think.

[Kukesa]

5. Hi Kettering!

OK, I feel better since there are at least TWO of us here in the south 'burbs.

Anyone else out there?

I vote at the Washington Township Rec Center and never have to wait. During the primaries there were 8 Repug machines and 2 for Dems. When I declare my party affiliation, I swear people stare at me! But that's OK, because we're pure of heart.

Later.

Kukesa

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

8. Washington Township, too....

....oddly enough I used to vote at the rec center, but now vote in the Government Center (the new township hall) over on McEwen.

Yes, Democrats seem to be scarce around here, though I did see a Clinton/Gore sign back in '92 on a house on McEwen near the middle school.

[Kukesa]

10. Clinton-Gore sign?

Did you really see a sign like that in Washington Township? In 1992? Halleluja! I still have my Clinton-Gore button.

OK, that makes TWO of us from Washington Township. Any more out there?

Kukesa

[Philostopher]

12. A year ago,

When Mr. Nownow and I were attending the Dean Meetups, there were several of us from Oakwood, Centerville and Kettering, though more were either from Yellow Springs or Wright State students. Admittedly, some of them also were disgruntled Republicans or Independents (which, as my father always says, generally are Republicans who are pissed off at their last President, at least in Ohio). I know when we elected a Kettering commisioner last fall, I saw a couple of signs within a block of us, for the Democratic candidate, when I walked the dog. Maybe the fact that the Republican was touting her anti-choice stance in an election for commissioner turned some of them off, I don't know. Turned me off, but I've never voted for a Republican in my life. I didn't get as far as her opinions on reproductive choice, since the "R" usually turns me off long before they get that far! Regrettably, she won, though I think it was close.

[gmoney]

15. Kettering... REPRESENT!

I live in Kettering, but work in an East Dayton building where the main tenant is a military contractor (who has donated $2000 to Bush in his name, $2000 more in his wife's name)... I've had a couple of his employees quietly ask me about my Dean bumper sticker, so I think there may be some hope in this area. (Of course, I've been waiting MONTHS for a Kerry bumper sticker, which might help stir things up further.)

Didn't have the nerve to put up a Kucinich sign in my yard, but if I can get my hands on a Kerry sign, I'll give it a shot.

[AngryOldDem]

19. Try voting at Bethany Lutheran Village

It is about the worst, most out-of-the-way place I've ever seen. The building is way in the back of the complex, parking is horrible, and the roads are so narrow two cars can barely pass. I'm really looking forward to Election Day -- I'll probably get there right after 6, because otherwise it's going to be a nightmare.

Why they changed polling places still puzzles me. In 2000, we were over at the Hithergreen Senior Complex. And we must live RIGHT ON the precinct line, because over the fence is a school, and I believe it still is a polling place.

More GOP booths than Dem at Bethany, but no surprise there.

[AngryOldDem]

18. The LAST living liberal?

>>I live in the Washington Township/Centerville area and am pretty sure I'm the last living liberal in these here parts;>>

You're forgetting your neighbor, here. LOL.

:hi:

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

14. Wright-Patterson AFB a GOP influence???

Sometimes I think this is the "Colorado Springs of Ohio", what with WPAFB and its related defense dontractor and military retiree communitys....

....perhaps this influence would account for the GOP strength in Montogomery County...a place one would expect to be pretty solid Democratic due to the blue collar manucfacturing base, especially the auto industry and its related unions?

[Lerkfish]

17. actually, Oakwood is sporting a lot of Kerry signs...

which surprised me. I live in Wash twp, surrounded by Bush signs...sigh...

[Blue-Jay]

6. Not very GOP.

As I remember, Montgomery County was blue in the 2000 election. So was Clark.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

9. Yeah, but that doenst translate into local offices.

It seems most of the suburban and countywide offices are held by Republicans.

I think the reason Montgomery County goes Democratic is that there is a large African-American voting bloc.

There are white folks who vote Democratic too, but I don't know any in real-life (well, a few gay folks, but thats a pretty small minority, I think).

Clark County...Springfield...that town seems pretty redneck, so Im a bit suprised that the Dems do well there.

[Blue-Jay]

11. No we're not "rednecks".

Granted, we have a few doozies around these parts, but Clark & Springfield in particular have a long goddamn history of voting Democratic. This town was built on unions and the residents have a looong memory. Nearly every one of our local positions are (and have always been) held by Democrats.

rednecks, indeed.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

13. ..Springfield is a bit different, then....???

....I thought it was like Greene and Montgomery Countys, and pretty much GOP. Sounds like its alot more solid for the Dems....but don't you have a GOP state rep or senator?


There is a union vote in Montgomery County, too, I think, but I suspect the WPFAB influence is tipping the place more GOP?

[Blue-Jay]

16. Yes and No...

All the local positions (mayors, sherriff, judges, clerk, etc...) are Dems here and always have been. Our state rep, Merle Grace Kearns, is indeed a Republican, but she's a pretty respectable woman and I actually like her. I didn't vote for her, but I like her. She was a co-sponsor of a house bill to require BBV machines to provide an auditable paper receipt. Aside from that, she's pretty liberal in her social views for a Republican.

In the 2000 general election, Clark County was blue but not by a whole bunch. Just over 300 votes (Hell, that much could've turned Florida's results, though).

Here was the breakdown:

Bush: 27,660
Gore: 27,984
Nader: 1347

You can check out more details (if you're so inclined) here:
http://serform.sos.state.oh.us/sos/results/

[AngryOldDem]

20. You suspect correctly

>>>I suspect the WPFAB influence is tipping the place more GOP?>>>

That's why I posted the link about a week ago concerning Ted Kennedy and Mitt Romney coming here to nose around WPAFB. The timing could not have been worse; indeed, there was a letter to the editor in Wednesday's paper about it. The last thing we need now is people like Mike Turner planting the idea in people's heads that a vote for Kerry will mean a vote against Wright-Pat. Turner could exploit that to the fullest, and possibly sway some undecideds. Turner -- and in Greene County, Dave Hobson -- always go to bat for WPAFB, and they always make sure everyone knows about it.

Another point: I believe Montgomery County is "largely" Democratic purely due to the city of Dayton's demographics: African-Americans and blue-collar workers.

[Kukesa]

7. A Little Research on Ohio Voting Demographics, 2000

This from CNN's Election 2000 Website:

"Political Control: Ohio is a strong Republican state. The GOP controls the governorship, both U.S. Senate seats, and both houses of the state legislature. It also holds an 11-8 edge in the state's U.S. House delegation.

Selected Demographics: When Democrats win statewide races here, they do it with the help of an unusually large union vote. In 1996, for example, 34 percent of Ohio voters were from union households versus 23 percent nationwide. While Bill Clinton actually lost by 3 points (43 percent to 46 percent) among those Ohio voters who did not come from a union household, he more than compensated for that loss by winning 2-1 (58 percent to 29 percent) among those voters who did come from a union household. In 1996, 90 percent of Ohio voters were white, 9 percent were African-American, and less than 1 percent were Hispanic. Nationally, 83 percent of all voters were white, 10 percent were African-American, and 5 percent were Hispanic.

Geography: Northern Ohio -- particularly Cleveland, Toledo, and Youngstown -- is a Democratic stronghold. The Republican base is located in the southwestern portion of the state, particularly around Cincinnati. The swing battlegrounds in the state are usually Columbus (Franklin County), Dayton (Montgomery County), Canton (Stark County), and, to a more limited extent, Lorain County outside of Cleveland. Socially conservative blue-collar Democrats along the West Virginia border are also a swing constituency in statewide campaigns".


In the 2000 presidential election Gore carried Montgomery County:
Gore: 111,001
Shrub: 107,330

WE CAN DO EVEN BETTER THIS TIME!

Kukesa

[MountainMamma]

21. Thanks for the info Kukesa

and let me say-YOU GO OHIO- you can do it. We have to do it. The work now is to stay strong, avoid the giant pot holes in the road ahead. I have the feeling that folks have made up their minds and are just not saying. Stay on message and don't be pulled into stuff that gets our eye off the prize.:toast:


Mamma

[VolcanoJen]

22. And, honestly, Hamilton County isn't even all that Republican.

Butler and Warren counties are Bush Country for certain... but I have a strong feeling Kerry can pull off a victory in Hamilton County, which represents the real Cincinnati.

Everyone, get off your butts and get to work... and support Greg Harris as much as you support John Kerry!!

Great info, mom!!