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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 10:54 AM
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A question for all Texas DU'ers. Please respond. On March 19th, 2005
should there be multiple demonstrations in major cities or should there be a call for one large statewide event in one city? Personally, I believe we should hold one in Dallas, Houston, Austin and Crawford. I think we have enough time to have something major in each city, so what do the rest of you here think? Right now there are demos in planning stages in each of the above listed locations, but it is now being discussed, one main location, or multiple.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 10:57 AM
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1. Ok, I'll ask the stupid question....
March 19th?
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 10:57 AM
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2. why march 19?
the significance of the date doesn't ring a bell for me - please explain....

thanks
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 10:59 AM
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4. Anniversary of Iraqi War
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:01 AM
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5. eye-c
thanks
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:05 AM
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7. I'm glad I wasn't the only one! nt
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:08 AM
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8. i noticed that too....n/t
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:27 AM
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23. To be more clear, Anniversay of the day we started "Shock & Awe"
Bombs dropping everywhere as we sped into Baghdad. Google President George on that day.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:30 AM
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24. We all say "remember the Alamo"
In the mid-east, Iraq, they all know say remember Fallujah.

Rememmber Palestine and Zionist Israel.
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 10:58 AM
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3. Each city for me. Just wish someone will organize it.
Im in Houston. My club will volunteer to help if someone is going to organize it.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:04 AM
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6. I think total turnout
would be larger with separate demonstrations--but since it would be spread out, may not look as impressive as one big one. Personally, I would only go if there were one in the Dallas area.
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:10 AM
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9. Right. I would go if it was local. eom
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:21 AM
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10. Resources:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 01:13 PM
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11. Why bother?
Does anyone really feel like we're accomplishing things with a bunch of small demonstrations?

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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 01:35 PM
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12. I believe this is being set up as another global event. I could be wrong.
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 01:42 PM by anarchy1999
It's important NoPasaran, it just is. Complicity in silence. I don't want to be complicit in war crimes and inhumanity to man.

on edit:

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/

Do You Suffer News Fatigue?
Sick of dour headlines? Too much Bush and war and death and homophobia and Bush? You are not alone
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Friday, January 21, 2005

Maybe it was the deluge of deeply nauseating election stories. Maybe it was the horrifying election results.
Maybe it was the staggering news of the tsunami devastation or the continued uptick of the number of U.S. dead in Iraq. Maybe it was Abu Ghraib or the brutal Fallujah carnage or the obvious and bitter stories of the foregone failure of the search for WMD.

snip to the end:

Know that this is not you. Know that you do not have to kowtow and you do not have to succumb and you do not have to bury your head and merely endure. Know that you have this one humble and luminous choice, always and always and every single day: no matter if it's dark energy or light, low vibration or high, raw intimate self-defined sensual divinity or dumbed-down numbed-out force-fed conservative sanctimony, you can either trust that truth and follow your own hot moral compass, or allow it to be stained and warped and doused in fear and led wide, wide astray. It's not about them. It's about you. Make your choice now. Grip it like a baseball bat.

Then, the good news. No longer will you have to ask how to survive. No longer will you ask how you can possibly endure the next four miserable, homophobic, warmongering, Earth-bashing years without daily weeping and clenching and rending of karmic flesh.

That truth of yours won't just set you free; it will lay you open and feed the universe and allow you to laugh at the mad circus of it all, ultimately morphing that sad resigned news-fatigue nausea back into outrage and ire and healthy intellectual fire. And you will, by default and almost automatically, get your fine ass back in the game.

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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 01:51 PM
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13. And here is most recent from GrannyD as to why.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0117-31.htm

Published on Published on Monday, January 17, 2005 by CommonDreams.org
Our Velvet Revolution
by Doris 'Granny D' Haddock

A growing number of Americans are beginning to identify with the pro-democracy activists whose courage opened much of the world to freedom in the final decades of the 20th Century.

We remember and honor the poet revolutionary Vaclav Havel of Czechoslovakia, where Charter 77 rendered the flowers and songs of a velvet revolution more powerful than the guns of oppression. We remember the shipyard hero, Lech Walesa, of Poland. We remember those who stood non-violently in Russia, in Yugoslavia, in Tiananmen Square, in East and West Germany. It was their fearless living that ended the Cold War, not Reagan’s saber rattling.

When people stand united with certain courage against oppression, they get their way. That is an axiom in the geometry of world history.


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My advice to the activist is to look at the work of groups like City Repair of Portland, and of ACORN, and other groups that work to make everyday life more joyful for our people. Get involved with them. There are simply not enough of us to effect dramatic political change as things stand today, so we must labor happily in these vineyards until we are enough. And we must open the eyes and minds of our neighbors. Just as the religious groups go door-to-door with their pamphlets, so must we, with pamphlets that fill in the gaps of information about our government, our environment, and our situation in America and around the world. These activities--working with people who need help and spreading the truth--must be joined, and our political work will come easier.

Let us string lights in the trees and bring out tables of food. Let us buy the things we need from the workers here who need the work. Let us invite the musicians and the artists and the academics to do their part. Let us do, in short, what we would do if the present order fell to feathers with all its mortgages and credit cards. It will do just that if we so elect, and this is the election that matters. The things we dislike in the present order are sustained only by our fearful complicity.

Look at me: I am still alive, and I am looking at you, and you are alive. This is our world as much as anyone else's. We who are old enough or wise enough to see the edges of life can understand that we have a choice between fear and joy, and between victimization and service. All elections and other indications to the contrary, happy days are here again when we but say they are. We do not turn our hearts away from injustice or suffering, indeed we mend them as best we can with our joyful engagement and our courageous non-cooperation with the forces of fear and death. And no one can take away our joy, for even our suffering for justice and brotherhood is joyful.

This is our Velvet Revolution, American style. We resist what we must and what we can, but our victory is not in defense, but in a cultural offensive made irresistible by the power of love and courage, pulling our people together, and our own lives together, over time.

We have tried this before in America. Things got in our way: drugs, wars, fears. We became parents. We became distracted. It is now time to get it right.

Thank you.

Doris "Granny D" Haddock is celebrating her 95th birthday (Jan. 24) with a quick speaking tour in Florida over the next few days and then speaking at the January 20th Inauguration Day Protests in Washington, D.C.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 06:01 PM
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15. You know what, you might be right. Why bother?
I've spent most of my day on hold and "I'll call you back". Maybe it just isn't worth it anymore. I just don't know.

Amy G has agreed to come to town, they need help, I looked for venues, had information. Still on hold. Guess I'm just not good enough.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 06:28 PM
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16. Be careful
Don't drive into any lakes in the fog, okay?
:hug:
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 06:51 PM
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19. I know all the lakes too well, but thanks for the heads up.
n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 06:35 PM
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17. Hey dude!
:hug: Thanks for working on the Amy Goodman thing. Really. I'm trying to get the word out to my crowd too. I've got my calendar marked, I'm looking forward to it. I have heard so many people say that they want liberal radio in North Texas, that I really expect them to either support this or I will call 'em on it big time.

If you're still looking for places, the CWA hall is quite centrally located.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 06:47 PM
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18. Crispini, I'm not a "dude". You know that.
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 06:52 PM by anarchy1999
What is the CWA hall? I had a major venue lined up and no one gives a shit. We even offered to pay half. Oh well. I give. I've been promised call backs all day. Talked with a couple of politicians in the last hour. Advice was one, wait to hear back, the other was find something else to care about.

I guess having Amy Goodman come to town just isn't worth any time or effort. I thought, mistakenly, that if we had her in the right place we could get some really good coverage. Guess I was wrong.

Change was all I was hoping to make happen.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 07:02 PM
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20. Sorry, my generic use of "dude"
shoots me in the foot sometimes over the internet. :P

I guess I don't quite understand who is the holdup, the funding source(es) or the folks at Democracy Now or who? What can I do to help? How about Harryette? PM me -- who have you talked to; I might be able to give you some more thoughts, maybe?

CWA -- did I get it wrong? the union hall in East Dallas; they rent it out sometimes; we have Election Protection functions there.

I think it's a totally worthy idea, IMO.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 07:09 PM
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21. I'll get with you tomorrow.
I've had enough for today.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 06:13 PM
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14. New info:
"We held a planning meeting at the Crawford Peace House Saturday. The CPH wants to put on an event on the weekend of the 19th in Crawford, with people coming from across the state. I told them that we were trying to plan a TUAW event with local actions across the state on the 19th, and suggested that we hold the Crawford event on Sunday the 20th. This was agreed upon, and there was discussion of reserving Tonkawa Falls Park for people who wish to drive in after the local events on Saturday and spend the night."

Anyone interested? Tonkawa Falls is a lovely spot, weather though, could be problematic. Reservations at local hotels is a possibility.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:15 AM
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22. A sweet and heart loved kick back to the top.
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 05:19 AM by anarchy1999
What do we want to do? Lots of ideas, many actions, how can we be most effective?
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