Green Bay votes 88% for Dems

[goofticket]

A phenomenal turnout, over 35% in Brown County,

Even in the most conservative, neighborhoods!

Congrats to all the voters, especially all the first time voters who joined the ranks.

The Republicans FAILED to win even one, ward in the entire county.

[rodeodance]

1. The entire Fox Valley used to be red as I recall. Yes, great news.

[goddess40]

2. Don't get too happy there were many crossover votes

With the Republican race winding down, Kevin Hermening, former chairman of the Republican Party of Marathon County, said he and other Republicans voted for Clinton, believing that Obama would be a tougher opponent for McCain.


http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/WDH0101/802200581/1581/WDHnews


Other republican's urged their friends to vote for Obama thinking he would be easier to beat. While it was a disjointed effort they boosted the democratic vote numbers significantly.

It's time to close the primary and let party members pick their own candidates.

[Viking12]

4. FYI: Data is not the plural of anecdote

[goddess40]

5. duh, but there is no way to collect data on this

and the republicans know that so they are free to cross over and screw up the elections. I'm also not so dumb as to believe it doesn't happen in the other direction but that's just all the more reason to move to closed primaries.

[Viking12]

7. Sure there is...exit polls

While the data is not perfect it is data. The results from last night provide no evidence of Republicans 'screwing up' the Democratic Primary.

The argument you make to close the primary is almost exactly the same one the Republicans use to advocate for advanced voter registration with govt issued IDs. They provide no data, point to a few anecdotes, and yell fraud.

Keep Wisconsin's elections open and accesible to everyone and anyone.

[goddess40]

8. most people aren't going to tell anyone they are ethically bankrupt

so exit polls won't cut it here.

Sorry, but my wanting to have closed primaries so democrats pick their candidate and republicans pick theirs is in no way like the republicans wanting to deny people the right to vote. With an open primary we keep getting watered down candidates instead of people that really represent us and the right wingers have dragged us so far right that Obama and Clinton look very liberal - which they aren't.

[Viking12]

11. Closed primaries = A solution to a problem that doesn't exist

So yes, it is the same as the Republicans wanting to change registration laws for artificial reasons.

If you want to deny citizen participation in the primary process, then do away with the process altogether -- select the delegates at a privately funded convention. Until then, keep Wiscosnin elections open and accessible.

[goofticket]

6. Crossover does not apply on Feb 19th

It doesn't exist, in the election of Feb 19th.

Wait until Sept, when we actually have to delcare a party.

This election was ALL the voters making a unified decision.
There is no party spin, although many will try.

Voters had 18 choices, and they chose one of those 18.

If the crossover would have existed, in this race...the Dem winner would have been that one choice called, uninstructed delegate.

[goddess40]

9. Of course it applies

Parties should be able to pick their candidates if anyone wants in to vote all they have to do is join a party. That does in no way deny people the right to vote otherwise why should we have parties?

[dragonlady]

10. The September primary is also an open primary

No one will have to declare a party; the ballots will have separate sections for all of the parties, and you can vote in any one section. (The primary is for each party to select its canidates for partisan office: congresspersons; legislators; county clerk, register of deeds, treasurer, district attorney, and sheriff.)

[Connonym]

3. In a related story, national media still unable to properly pronounce "Green Bay"

n/t

[CarbonDate]

13. How do you mispronounce "Green Bay"? n/t

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[Jimbo S]

14. green BAY

[LTR]

12. I'm sure Republicans stayed home, since McCain pretty much has it locked up

Not much incentive to go out and vote.

Sure, there may have been some that voted in the Dem race, but speaking as one who had really only one choice in the '04 primary (Kerry had it virtually locked up at that point), I didn't bother to vote. I'm sure the Republicans feel the same way.

Meanwhile, there's still a lot going on in the Democratic race. That brought out the voters.

The true test will be in November.

[CarbonDate]

15. I came out and voted in Green Bay for Dean in '04.

More of a protest vote than anything else, though. Dean was still in the race, but not really.

On an unrelated note, my aunt Amy advanced to the general election in her primary bid for city council! Amy's a solid blue Dem and a really smart lady. She'll make a great addition to the city council.

She was the only challenger to do better than the incumbent; every other incumbent received better than 50% of the vote.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/GPG0101/802200670/1207