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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:21 AM
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A Liberal TV Ad I'm waiting to see.
I think what bothers me more than almost anything else about Harper, is the realization that he is a control freak intent on re-making just about every aspect of the Canadian government. Are Canadians really listening to him? He has not overlooked a single area: from "activist" judges, as he calls them, to senators to provincial powers. He is intent on putting his stamp on everything! Do we really want a wholesale makeover of our government? I believe if he gets a majority he will work quickly to accomplish his revisions before we know what hit us. Remember, he has Mulroney advising him. Mulroney, who said before he was elected, "when I get through you won't recognize Canada." (I don't remember the exact quote, but that was the gist of his words.) I wish someone who is connected to the Liberal party would point this out to them and perhaps they could work this warning about Harper's intentions into a TV ad....I really don't believe that Canadians, (even the ones who are considering voting for him) want the "extreme makeover" he has planned for us.

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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:14 AM
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1. Look...
Everybody knows this already...it's the same script that has run for the last 14 years. All these points were scored last Spring...you can't call people Nazis for decades and continue to expect it to work again.

Let's be honest, are the Tories the biggest threat to Canada? We seem to think so and so do many, but unfortunately the 68 year old crook running the Liberals, spent a good part of his time in gov't, thinking that Jean Cretein and his supporters were the BIGGEST threat to Canada and acted that way.

I am not drinking the kool-aid on this one,and neither is anyone else. If Liberals want to be elected, then they have to play by the rules like anyone else and not simply use the vehicle of gov't to manipulate a mandate.

(I think it will be a minority gov't at this point-then again, if it turns out to be a Muldoon landslide...expect that..the polling numbers are wrong.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:26 AM
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2. All I'm saying is the Liberals (under Martin) are the lesser of two evils.
There is not a chance of a snowball in hell that Layton will form the government....and I DO think the Conservatives under Harper and his neanderthals are a real threat to Canada as we know it. I agree that Martin is a dud, but better him than Harper.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:28 PM
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4. True...
But the 'lesser of two evils' is a strategy and one benefit of such a strategy is that it can be used to 'stifle' legitimate criticism and keep bad politicians in the game far longer than they should be.

Ditto on Layton...I was very early and loud about the fact that the NDP should get fuck out of the federal scene. Like the Free Trade vote, the NDP has a real chance to fuck this up again. I don't want a 40 year old party that never rises above 20% in the polls, that NO longer speaks for Progressives, involved anymore. (face it, it's a party AFTER their big breakthrough that decided Who?? was a better leader than a former NDP premier, for fuck sakes...I mean shit, if this party isn't being run by spooks and Liberals they might as well be)

Jack!!! It's too late to do the Right Thing...your toast anyway as far as the party is concerned and the Tories won't give you a patronnage appointment. Does this POS Yuppie clown, who last election was accusing Martin of killing the homeless with his cuts, and who NOW is practically advocating that the homeless need stiffer sentences, really think he is doing anything else BUT split Liberal votes.

I am just too pissed off to care basically...the Liberals never choose to reform their gov't or their party and as such they will let the Tories do it for them...yes, "lesser of two evils" is something you should have told Martin and his rich cabal.

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:43 PM
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5. I'm not involved with the Liberal party or any other party...never have
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 01:45 PM by glarius
been....I'm just a concerned grandmother who is very worried that Harper will get a majority and do damage that will take years to undo, if it ever can be undone. You sound like you don't really like the NDP and you seem to hate the Liberals...Who else is there to vote for, except the Conservatives?....Perhaps the Liberals have gotten enough of a scare this time that they will clean house after the election. They're still our best bet anyway, in my opinion....And that's all this is....my opinion.
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best left blank Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:47 AM
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6. As an advocate
for the homeless, I can tell you that equating them with criminals is a very unsavoury rhetorical move.

Congratulations.


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Pierre Trudeau Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:01 PM
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3. speak of the devil (i.e. Mulroney)

One of the many curious ironies of this election is the fact that Mulroney is advising Harper, the very guy who quit the PCs in a huff 20 years ago and co-founded the Reform Party in the first place. At the time, he hated Mulroney... I guess all is forgiven now??
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