stumbled across this "forum" searching for info about this Celsius 41.11 movie (don't ask why :) ). What a bunch of maroons.
Check this out, from their leader, Joel Johannesen:
Bush the clear debate winner
Through sheer common sense, a clear understanding of issues, and by truly believing that what he's saying is right, George W. Bush was the clear winner in the first presidential debate of the 2004 election.
Bush showed that he has little trouble verbalizing what he's saying and it's because he believes it and knows it to be right deep down in his gut. It comes from the heart and soul, and it comes from an understanding of good and evil, right and wrong, what works and what doesn't. And from a conviction in the belief that people -- all people, including Iraqis -- want freedom and that they deserve it. And from an understanding of, and devotion to, his duty as President of the United States that he loves. And, not least, a refusal to turn over his country's national security interests to those who represent other countries, and other interests.
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more, if you want a laugh here :
http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1386&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1Sid