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Not a robought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:48 PM
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CRTC approves FOX NEWS in Canada
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 02:54 PM by Nota_Robought
Just saw this reported now on CBC Newsworld. I would love to know how this serves us?

Edit for the link:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/11/18/fox_crtc041118.html

CRTC approves Fox News for Canada
Last Updated Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:12:37 EST

OTTAWA - The conservative-leaning Fox News Channel will soon be coming to Canadian digital television channels.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) approved an application Thursday to bring the Fox News Channel, one of the highest-rated news channels in the United States, onto Canadian digital airwaves.

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The Canadian Association of Broadcasters (CAB) opposed the application, saying it would discourage foreign broadcasters from partnering with Canadian broadcasters.

However, in its decision, the CRTC said Fox News offers little Canadian coverage and is not "partially or totally competitive with any Canadian pay or specialty service." It added that the channel would "significantly boost digital penetration in Canada" and increase the availability of digital services in the country.
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:50 PM
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1. Come on Canada,
bitch slap those mother f'ers down!
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:50 PM
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2. NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo!
I'm so sorry Canadiens!!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:50 PM
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3. There goes Canada, expect the neo-cons to take over Ottawa by 2010
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:55 PM
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4. We needed another comedy channel
:D
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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:02 PM
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5. It had better be on third-tier cable or higher.
...so people have to pay for the, um..."privilege" of watching it. I don't want it slipping in under the radar and forcing itself on us via basic or first/second tier.
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Options Remain Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:03 PM
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6. Ah that explains the military deployments on the border
Obviously we are going to invade Canada next.

TearForger
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:09 PM
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7. yeah, and next we'll take away your gay marriage
and your little dog too
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 03:28 PM
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8. There are to be restrictions attached, I bet they resemble the same...
ones attached to the Al Jazeera decision. So far, due to the restrictions put on Al Jazeera, they haven't been picked up.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:34 PM
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13. Nope
no restrictions for Faux.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:12 PM
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16. Yeah, saw that, the news, at first, was reporting forthcoming ...
restrictions although allowing it only on digital cable is a kind of restriction in itself. I hope it is pay-per-view too so it can lay there and die, lol.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 05:26 PM
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9. Fuck sake
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:14 AM
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10. How Fox can serve you.
You get something to laugh your ass off at.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:34 AM
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11. Poison. Run from it.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:55 AM
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12. We already have CNN, the other faux network...
yet Canadians still despise bush, go figure, lol. I am not happy they let Faux in but don't see it affecting the way Canadians view the US at all other than to see it as a parody of a 'news' channel.
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:44 PM
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15. I'm thinking the same thing.
As much as I hate this idea, it might foster even more disdain toward the US, when they see the hatred spewing forth from the airwaves.
Or maybe Fox will moderate its views to appeal to Canadian viewers. (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I almost said that with a straight face).
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:50 PM
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19. Well...
"yet Canadians still despise bush, go figure, lol."

That's because they have access to more reliable news and a far superior education.

We have Canadian news, but it's only news that's approved by the US. We don't get complete access to what you all have.

Then of course, most Americans don't even think to watch the international news channel much. Even then, it's argued by some paranoid people that it has an anti-American bias and "be careful". Suppose that's true (which it's not). Well, America's news has an anti-world bias. We're even!

I want to live in another country, just for a little while. I want to know what it's like to live in something more normal. I swear I'll probably come back.

Okay, I'll stop hijacking the thread now.
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:36 AM
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14. Have you watched the "Outfoxed" DVD yet?
If not, I highly recommend it.
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HamiltonHabs32 Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:00 PM
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17. Re
I watched Outfoxed and it blew my mind, I recommend anybody who plans on watching Fox News (i seriously dont see many Canadians supscribing to this channel) They should watch Outfoxed first.
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democracy eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:16 PM
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18. ahhhh whatever, one more channel not to watch
or a better reason not to get digital TV or even turn the TV on

the right wing nuts who were right wing nuts b4 will watch it.

others will tune in for the spectacle and the train wreck qualities

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:50 AM
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20. Canadians, beware.
Please don't make the same mistake that many of the people of the left-persuasion here in the United States made...that of thinking that your fellow citizens have sufficent critical thinking skills to make them immune to propaganda. The right-wing radicals have been working on it for 40 years down here and we've been asleep at the wheel thinking they were too radical to ever appeal to the population at large. Nip it in the bud...NOW.
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:56 AM
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21. Agreed.
Seriously, you Canadians might think you have a handle on the problem of the right wing agenda. The American left thought the same thing. Unfortunately, people like Reagan got in followed by the "Christian right" with their agenda. It was an agenda that the whole world was out to get us, that homosexuals and liberals in general want to destroy the family, that abortion is murder (sometimes using pictures to try to back up the argument), etc. I think a very common idea that snuck in the door in the United States was the concept that youth were a bunch of drug addicts and killers thanks to their egalitarian boomer parents. That not only led to a national and international war "against drugs" being supported by Americans, but it also led to a lot of people either growing up right winged or converting to the right. You all might think that those right wingers in the United States were there all through the 1960s, but a lot of them were not. A lot of them converted to the right after so much BS propoganda. Now, look at the position we're in. We're being ran over by fascists, and we don't have the first clue about how to fight them.

So, I agree. Nip it in the bud now. Start with your own kids. Talk to them often about propoganda going around. Explain to them why that right winged propoganda isn't true. Do it often. You might assume that your kids will grow up like you, but that's not necessarily true. Some progressive parents in the States found that their kids had been influenced so much by the right that they converted. Some kids turned anti-choice after the anti-choice movement started having them do stuff like looking at pictures. In the minds of the younger people, a picture couldn't lie. That's just one example. DON'T LET THE RIGHT GET YOUR KIDS. I'm not saying to nag them everyday. That's a turnoff to kids. It makes them not want to listen. I'm just saying to talk to them like a thinking individual. Don't preach at them. Make them THINK about the propoganda being given to them when you present them with evidence that it's not true.

Start forming pamphlets and other forms of awareness to counter ideas being portrayed by Fox and CNN. If you find the Christian Right trying to sneak in the back door, then do everything you can to get them out. Form awareness campaigns about them too.

You all think that you're immune to becoming like the United States, but you're not. You're really not. I'm looking at province in Canada right now that reminds me an awful lot of a southern state in the US, Alberta. If you think Alberta can't cause damage to the rest of the country with some of their anti-progressive ideas, you're wrong. How did Paul Martin get to become the Prime Minister? Oh, that's right. They didn't like Cretien. From the moment I heard about him on TV as PM, I thought to myself "Oh hell".

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/martin_paul/

"Since the election, Martin has emphasized the need for Canada and the United States to resolve lingering trade disputes and tighten the North American security net."

That sounds okay from the point of view of a lot of people, but I look at that and think "What is he up to?" Of course, knowing he's a "liberal" in Canada doesn't make me feel any better (a liberal being a right winger for those Americans reading who aren't aware of what terms mean outside the US).

I loved reading this though.

"Martin said that, as prime minister, he will make health care the number-one priority of his government. He promised a multi-billion dollar injection of health dollars to the provinces.

Martin said the Liberals' five-year plan would not require any tax increases or health premiums but would be funded out of projected future surpluses. Billions will be spent to create a national home-care program, reduce hospital waiting times, train new doctors channel more money to intensive-care and mental-illness programs."

He wants to make things "better" without raising taxes. He's relying on surpluses. Who does this sound like? Maybe I'm wrong to think that way, but Martin sounds an awful lot like some other leader I know of when he talks about taxes.

"He also emphasized a need to spend more on foreign affairs and the military."

Yikes! I can understand the Canadians that want something stronger than peace keepers and don't want to turn to us to defend them in a crisis. However, what do you all think this means coming from some right winger?

"Martin has said he wants Canada to join Washington's controversial missile defence program, which some say would turn North America into a fortress. "If there is going to be an American missile going off somewhere over Canadian airspace," he said, "I think Canada should be at the table making the decisions."

I suppose he has a point, but I am I the only getting suspicious about what all his intentions are? Since you all are not the superpower, I haven't paid too much attention to what you all do. However, I think I should join the other person here in warning you all about what could happen if right winged ideas aren't checked at the door. Don't take for granted that your country is on the left. Germany was also a very progressive country at one time. Nobody would have ever guessed that they would be the ones to turn into Nazis. Now, they're more progressive again. My point is that nobody would have guessed that Germany would take the route that it did. It was considered a haven for Jews at one time. I don't see Canada turning into a Nazi state, but I do think that they're far more vulnerable than they realize because they live right beside of us.

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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:31 PM
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22. The Fox approval is countered balanced by Al-Jazeera approval
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