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iverglas

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Sun Sep-14-08 12:27 PM
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Those poor, poor Liberals

It isn't their fault! Really! Nothing is EVER their fault!

If they lose an election, it's Jack Layton's fault. He stole their voters. Big, bad, mean old Jack Layton. Poor, poor, nice, innocent Liberals. Why, they'd never engage in corruption ...

But ... if they lose their voters to STEPHEN HARPER, THIS time around whose fault is THAT???

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/story/2008/09/14/poll-sunday.html

The Conservatives have solidified a substantial lead among Canadian voters, thanks at least in part to a lack of confidence in Liberal leader Stéphane Dion, according to an opinion poll released on Sunday.

The Canadian Press Harris-Decima poll, conducted Sept. 10 to 13, gave the Conservatives 40 per cent support across Canada, followed by the Liberals at 26 per cent.

The NDP had the support of 15 per cent of respondents, followed by the Green party at nine per cent and the Bloc Quebecois at eight per cent.

Respondents to the poll were asked the following question: "If a federal election were being held tomorrow, who do you think you'd be voting for in your area?"

Dion was the only major party leader to register a negative impression with Canadians. Fifty-five per cent of respondents to the poll had an unfavourable opinion of the Liberal leader, compared with 34 per cent who reported a favourable opinion of Dion.

Okay. I guess the Liberals may be right. This is all my fault, and I'm a member of the NDP.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=190&topic_id=17057&mesg_id=17057

iverglas
Fri Sep-15-06 01:59 PM

... Okay, I'll make my pick for Liberal leader, like I or anybody else cares. Stéphane Dion, just because he's actually a Liberal and in recognition of playing the game like you oughter. Perhaps I've just watched too much Big Brother this year. But I say give {Ignatieff} the $50,000 runner-up prize and send him home, wherever it might be this week.

My bad. You Liberals just shouldn't have listened to me. It was all a nefarious ploy to make you lose the next election.

But back to those polls.

http://www.thestar.com/FederalElection/article/498693

Okay now -- this is the Toronto Star and Angus Reid. This is not The Globe / CTV or Canwest Global. This is Liberal Party Central.

A new national poll by Angus Reid Strategies, conducted for the Toronto Star, suggests that if an election were held tomorrow the Conservatives would win 39 per cent of the vote.

That's 16 points more than the Liberals, who were picked by just 23 per cent of those surveyed. The New Democrats are at 18 per cent and for the first time the Green party, at 10 per cent, polled ahead of the Bloc Québécois. The Bloc, which runs candidates only in Quebec's 75 ridings, sits at 9 per cent support.

Now, doing the old math ... I'm just not seeing Jack picking up the votes that Stéphane is losing his grip on.

Now, nobody really thinks the Green Party is going to get 10% of the popular vote next month. These people are idiots, and likely most of them don't vote. A majority of those who do will probably vote Liberal, that being the default vote for people who fancy themselves clever.

Decima, just for giggles:

That trend was also reflected in another national poll released earlier yesterday by The Canadian Press/Harris Decima.

In it, the Tories had 41 per cent, the Liberals 34 per cent, the NDP 13 per cent and the Greens 11 per cent. The margin of error for the Ontario sample is 4.8 per cent, 19 times out of 20.

Huh. Believe that one, and even Jack seems to be losing votes somewhere.

But THIS IS NOT THE LIBERALS' FAULT!!!

It is not the Liberals' fault that so many people don't want to vote for them and that many people won't vote for them.

People are just sheep, bewitched by the strangely unbewitching Jack Layton; rats hearing the tune of a pied piper that Liberals just can't drown out.

Not the Liberals' fault. No, no, no.