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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:07 PM
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Jeb Bush not sold on Canadian Internet drugs
OTTAWA — As some U.S. states welcome Canadian Internet pharmacies and the cheaper prescription drugs they sell, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush says they're making his residents sick, and he's not sold on them.

"In Florida, we have asked (Internet drug companies) to license themselves as pharmacies," said Bush, who was in Ottawa on a trade mission today.

"We're not going to allow for storefront pharmacies that have no contact between a doctor and a patient to be able to sell prescription drugs to Floridians because of safety concerns."

Bush, who met earlier in the day with Prime Minister Paul Martin and with executives from Quebec's pharmaceutical industry, has been an outspoken critic of Canada's Internet drug industry.

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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:09 PM
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1. Jeb can go Cheney himself n/t
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:13 PM
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2. So Jeb also objects to US-based mail/web pharmacies

like AARP that also dont have 'contact between a doctor and a patient', whatever THAT is these days.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:22 PM
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3. Why are you surprised?...
Jebby can pick up whatever he wants in the local Denny's parking lot. Why bother getting it from Canada?
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:29 PM
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4. Not Surprised
One little bit.
However, he came on a trade mission.
I guess free trade means that it is a one way street.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:39 PM
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5. With American trade, it has always been a one way street...
and there are those of us who are frankly dismayed at how greedy and hypocritical we are.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:46 PM
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6. Well I
Can hope. At one time we were known as hewers of wood and haulers of coal. We managed to get out from underneath that after two world wars and much effort.
Hopefully we will not have to wait as long this time to capitalize on our natural resources while keeping those that we need for the future.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:57 PM
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7. No more Brian Muroney types would be a great start...
I even have my serious doubts about Martin. I had hopes for him as a follower in Chretien's footsteps, but he seemed to change tack immediately upon assuming office. Now, I could be wrong, but nowadays I am very suspicious.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:15 PM
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8. Art of The Possible
A lot depends on the premiers. Natural resources fall under provincial control and thus a consensus of all parties is required. I have heard it said that the Free Trade Deal went through because some provinces were pushing for it. Not that I have much respect for Irish eyes.
One thing is certain, the people have to decide what they want first.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:18 PM
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9. Isn't Klein one of the major problems?...
Please correct me if I have the name wrong, but isn't he the Premier from Alberta who seems to want to be annexed?
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:30 PM
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10. Yes and No
I think that one of the reasons that the Liberals won the fed election last month was a function of Klein's comments on medicare. He cons intently wins the elections.
So is it him, the people or the lack of a good opposition?
He certainly seems to pick fights with the feds but so does Quebec. It seems a way to win elections in this area.
As far as annexation I don't think that he is there. Although he comes across as far right he is more afraid of the extreme right in his own party and other extreme right parties of splitting the vote. It seems like that has started.
A note: Before he ran for the provincial PC's he was a Liberal and was being enticed to run for the provincial Liberals.
Politics make strange bedfellows.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:41 PM
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11. Hey, Thanks! I am grateful for the information...
The only political arena that I have followed has been in Manitoba, so I have limited knowledge of past situations. PLease feel free to inform at will. Thanks again!:toast:
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:34 PM
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15. Yeah, he's a right wing loudmouth......
my dad, who usually votes for the "Progressive Conservatives" voted recently for the Green party(Canada) because of Klein. (he wouldn't vote Liberal, but he just couldn't vote for the "Conservatives")

Klein just runs his mouth, gawd, he's annoying.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:00 PM
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16. HI DK...
What's happenin'? Been out to Folklarama yet?:hi:
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:07 PM
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12. doncha just wish they'd leave us out of it??
Kerry referred to allowing USAmericans to buy Canadian pharmaceuticals in his big speech. What's that about??

There are risks for us if this continues and expands. Our prices are a result of deals with the pharmaceutical companies. A deal requires two willing parties. It's possible that the companies that see sales in Canada being for the purpose of re-sale to the US aren't going to keep being willing.

It's nice to be able to help out, but the gods of public policy help those who help themselves, too. There just isn't any reason why we should risk our own benefits, or even what benefits there are under the free trade agreements, for the benefit of people whose own government is perfectly able to help them if it chose.

I don't mean to sound harsh, and what I mean, in this context, is: why is John Kerry talking about USAmericans buying drugs from the neighbours instead of doing something about his own backyard?? It's not the imporverished elderly in the US I'm not happy about helping -- it's the governments in the US that are using us, in ways that may not be to our own advantage, for their own benefit, i.e. to avoid doing what they need to do, at whatever cost that might involve to them, the governments. If there are going to be costs to be borne, I don't want 'em being shifted onto us. We're the innocent bystanders here.

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gula Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 04:58 PM
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13. Right on
There are already threatening noises from the big pharmaceuticals.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 05:11 PM
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14. I should have credited ;)
my co-vivant. He said to John Kerry last night in our living room, as he loudly says to any USAmerican on the teevee talking about letting our neighbours buy their drugs from us, or berating us for selling them, or whatever,

Leave us out of it!

I just think it's the perfect response!

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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:42 PM
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17. You're so right
The drug companies aren't giving us good rates because we're nice, we bargained for them. Just imagine the bargaining power the US government could wield if it so chose. The fact that DC lives on lobby money is so detrimental to the American people.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:45 PM
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18. Strange, I use Canadian pharmaseuticals all the time
and I don't get sick from them.
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