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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:38 PM
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Deal with Bloc taints marriage bill's legitimacy: Harper
Members of Parliament began final debate on Bill C-38 on Monday, the start of what is expected to be the final week before the House of Commons breaks for the summer.

With support expected from the NDP, Bloc Québécois and most Liberals, the bill establishing the Civil Marriage Act could pass before the weekend.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/27/samesex-debate060527.html
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:43 PM
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1. Ya just have to 'LOL' at Harper...
Harper schemed with the Bloc to try and bring down the government and that was just 'handy dandy' but the Liberals, Bloc and NDP all being in agreement on supporting the same-sex bill 'taints' it?


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:45 PM
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2. lol..yeah, it's pretty funny
my main point of interest in the piece was that the Conservatives are esentially conceding defeat..which means that SSM will be a reality within days.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:55 PM
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3. Yep, it is not a question of 'if' but one of 'when' for sure
My guess is, at the latest, Friday, ideally Wednesday should be the day.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:05 PM
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4. Cons will likely try to
drag it out with debate, to try and provoke the govt into invoking closure.

Then they can continue with their line of 'it was forced on Canadians'
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:42 PM
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7. That was in essence the Toronto Star's take on it
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1119869253659&call_pageid=968332188492

Harper should be applauded. I'm hard pressed to think of a single other Canadian that's doing more to minimize the power and influence of the Conservative Party.

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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 08:23 PM
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5. I've been driving past signs lately. . .
Flogging Harper's upcoming Stampede barbecue at Heritage Park. Too bad I'll be out of town, it would be worth the price of admission just to see him try to cram a cowboy hat onto that hair helmet of his.

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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 08:25 PM
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6. This is the same Harper who made a deal with the same Bloc a month ago.
If it is that would be hypocracy. :sarcasm:
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:48 AM
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8. Pot, meet kettle. nt.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:13 PM
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9. The most infuriating thing in that article
was Ken Epp talking about how black people didn't ask to be called white, and women didn't ask to be called men, so gay people shouldn't ask for the same name (marriage) in laws that protect their rights. Whaaaaaaa?! Gay people aren't asking to be called straight, and women still took part in 'voting' which had ALYWAS been a MALE institution. Why did they need to call it voting?! Why not find their own name for it, crazy women, trying to take over a rightfully male system :eyes:
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:50 PM
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10. Ken Epp used to be my MP.
I need to go hide my face now.

...not that I voted for him, you understand.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:09 PM
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11. ewwwwwwwww
I would hope you didnt :P
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:13 PM
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12. Ken Epp is one of the reasons
I refuse to call the CPC anything but "Reform". His bigotry, stupidity and refusal to allow facts to interfere with his opinions are typical. I did go to a couple of events to hear him speak.

2 reasons
1- know thine enemy
2- entertainment
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:43 PM
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13. What riding is that?
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:29 PM
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14. Elk Island
Now gone, split into Sherwood Park and Vegreville-Wainwright. Ken Epp chose to run in Sherwood Park, closer to the bright lights of the city, I guess.

I lived near the booming metropolis of Lamont.


"Edmonton-Sherwood Park was created in 2004 by combining 57 per cent of the Elk Island riding with 28 per cent of Edmonton Centre-East and eight per cent of Edmonton North.

Political History
For the past three elections, Elk Island has been won easily by the Reform/Canadian Alliance's Ken Epp. In 2000, Epp beat Liberal Paul Bokowski by 24,441 votes. Prior to 1993, this area was solid Tory country, held by Peter Elzinga from 1974-86, and then by Walter Van Dewalle and Brian O'Kurley."

<http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/riding/257/>
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