C of E bishop will lead Anglicans to Rome

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The Bishop of Ebbsfleet, the Rt Rev Andrew Burnham, is to lead his fellow Anglo-Catholics from the Church of England into the Roman Catholic Church, the Catholic Herald will reveal this week.

Bishop Burnham, one of two "flying bishops" in the province of Canterbury, has made a statement asking Pope Benedict XVI and the English Catholic bishops for "magnanimous gestures" that will allow traditionalists to become Catholics en masse.

He is confident that this will happen, following talks in Rome with Cardinal Levada, head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and Cardinal Kasper, the Vatican's head of ecumenism. He was accompanied on his visit by the Rt Rev Keith Newton, Bishop of Richborough, the other Canterbury "flying bishop", who is expected to follow his example.

Bishop Burnham hopes that Rome will offer special arrangements whereby former Anglicans can stay worshipping in parishes under the guidance of a Catholic bishop. Most of these parishes already use the Roman liturgy, but there may be provision for Anglican prayers if churches request it.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/damian_thompson/blog/2008/07/08/c_of_e_bishop_will_lead_anglicans_to_rome

[non sociopath skin]

1. The extent to which these guys will take their misogyny is amazing.

And depressing. God rot the lot of them and their superstitious eyewash! :mad:

The Skin

[Nihil]

2. Wassup Skin?

Pubs close early or something? :evilgrin:

Still, you made me chuckle this morning:
> God rot the lot of them and their superstitious eyewash!

[non sociopath skin]

3. Er ... it was meant to be funny, Nihil.

Should have put this in :sarcasm:

Sorry!

Not sure what time the pubs closed last night. I finished work at 8.30 and I was knackered.:boring:

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[Nihil]

4. Well it worked!

(Even if I read it as a grumpy rant rather than intentional ... oops.)

[non sociopath skin]

8. And do you have a view on the Men in Purple, Nihil?

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[Nihil]

10. Not in regard to this particular issue Skin.

In general, they are subject to the same mixures as any other organisation:
many good people, some bad, many genuine practice-what-they-preach and some
political animals who just want to advance in the hierarchy (albeit with
slightly less bloodshed than was usually the case in earlier years).
IMO, the "good" people would be good people regardless of their choice of
working clothes (or their choice of religion, if any, for that matter) and
the "bad" people would be otherwise be bad people with a different "sweeping
generalisation" label attached to them.

Whether or not the ratios in any arbitrary segment reflect that in the
population at large can be debated (e.g., are there really more homosexual
paedophiles in the church than in any other section of male society with
the same age-range?) but I'm not that bothered at the moment.

With regard to swapping between different flavours of what started off as
the same religion, that's up to them (although it does remind me of *that*
scene in the Life of Brian ... "Splitter!").

:hi:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

5. Cardinal Levada, ah, there's a blast from the past

He used to be archbishop in Portland, Oregon.

There is a fine choir called the Oregon Repertory Singers, and they used to give their concerts in the most liberal Catholic church in town, St. Phillip Neri. Unfortunately, Levada dropped in on one of their rehearsals and realized that they were singing Italian madrigals with naughty words. He demanded that they remove the offending madrigals from their program or cancel the concert. It was the day before the concert, and many tickets had been sold, so they had no choice.

However, that was the last concert they ever sang at St. Phillip Neri.

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6. The 50 most influential figures in the Anglican Church: 30-21

With the Lambeth Conference, the Anglican communion’s landmark summit, beginning next week, The Sunday Telegraph has compiled the Lambeth Power List, a countdown of the most influential figures in the worldwide Church.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2286440/The-50-most-influential-figures-in-the-Anglican-Church-30-21.html

[enlightenment]

7. Interesting list.

Fascinating that this fella should make the top 30 - the only "non-church" person in a top spot.



27. Howard Ahmanson - Church funder

A Californian millionaire who, along with other wealthy donors, has ploughed money into conservative organisations in the US Church.

Originally a Christian "reconstructionist" who believed that Old Testament laws should be applied literally, he says in recent times that he has modified his views.

An influential treatise, ‘Following the money’ by Jim Naughton, of the diocese of Washington, maintains that million of dollars contributed by Ahmanson and others have allowed a small network of conservative to mount a global campaign to destabilise the Episcopal Church and break up the Anglican Communion.

Ahmanson was present at the recent Global Anglican Future Conference in Jerusalem, though the Archbishop of Nigeria denied that he had bankrolled the conference.



Money talks, I guess.

[non sociopath skin]

9. It depends what you mean by "interesting".

The Skin