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queerart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:56 PM
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Britain on alert for deadly new knife with exploding tip that freezes victims' organs
Source: Mail Online

Senior police officers have been warned to look out for a new knife which can inject a ball of compressed gas into its victim that instantly freezes internal organs.

The 'wasp knife', which can deliver a ball of compressed gas capable of killing its victim at the press of a button, may be heading for Britain, the Metropolitan Police fear.

A needle in the tip of the blade shoots out the frozen ball of gas which instantly balloons to the size of a basketball, freezing organs.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035729/Britain-alert-deadly-new-knife-exploding-tip-freezes-victims-organs.html



What has happened to the World......

Once you think you have seen it all..... they raise the bar.......
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:29 PM
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1. i don't get it?
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 11:40 PM by mrs_p
from the article: The manufacturer describes it as perfect for downed pilots, soldiers and security guards and boasts that it will "drop many of the world's largest land predators".

why do you inject compressed gas into downed pilots, soldiers, and security guards? :shrug:

edit: oh, i think i see - pilots. soldiers, and security guards use it on large animals?
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:52 PM
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2. Lions and tigers and bears?
One of the loon responses, not surprisingly:

"This weapon maybe put to good use against terrorists and other warmongers."
- Dutchkins, Manchester, 17/7/2008 04:22

And made in the USA. Go us. :eyes:
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:34 AM
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12. Why not just use a gun?
:shrug:
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MJJP21 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:39 AM
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20. Because
They don't use guns for crime in Britain as often because they are illegal. (It does occur though)Only the criminal have guns. There are no laws against buying knives.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:46 AM
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28. Knife crime in UK
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/textbased/news/article-1035798/Thugs-committing-350-knife-assaults-EVERY-DAY-menace-spreads-rural-areas.html

Thugs committing 350 knife assaults EVERY DAY, as blade menace spreads to rural areas






Thugs are committing more than 350 knife assaults every day across England and Wales, latest crime figures reveal.

Results from the British Crime Survey showed nearly 130,000 attacks took place last year - a figure which does not include those against under-16s.

Separate figures recorded by police forces reveal 22,000 serious knife assaults including 231 attempted murders, almost 14,000 robberies and more than 8,000 woundings.

Ministers welcomed the annual figures which showed a nine per cent drop in overall crime last year, and claimed the steady downward trend in recent years was the most impressive in modern times - including a 12 per cent fall in all violent crime last year.

Cont.....
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:54 PM
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3. stabbing people the old-fashioned way is going to be so uncool
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:56 PM
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4. This sounds like a prank to me, frankly.
It's just too ludicrous to be believed.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:06 AM
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5. Yeah, well Genghis Khan would probably think a hollow tube that fired 600 projectiles a minute
and was capable of turning a human into a pulverized mass of flesh by simply holding the trigger, would be too ludicrous to believe.

I mean, a simple bow and arrow or long knife will do the trick nicely.

Pardon my sarcasm. I am NEVER surprised what we homo sapiens invent to destroy each other.

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queerart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:34 AM
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7. It Appears To Be Real...............
Here are a few folks selling the item........


http://www.waspknife.com/

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum62/8503.html


and here is a link to a website that has a utube video of the knife......

http://gizmodo.com/5027010/wasp-knife-will-freeze-and-blow-up-your-organs






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AllHereTruth Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:43 AM
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9. "Wasp Injection Systems, Inc. - Creators of the Original WASP Gas Injection Knife!"
Before you call something ludicrous and a prank i suggest doing research...Google works.

Lets start: Google
Next Step: Wasp Knife
Next Step: Click on the manufacturers website
Final Step: Figure out its authenticity, THEN post.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:31 AM
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17. it's an authentic gimmick, a seltzer bottle knife
In the utube demonstration they make a stationary watermelon explode with the "Max Adapter" supersized CO2 canister, but it only raises more questions, like: why are all the video clips so short? What happens when there isn't a stationary watermelon to absorb the impact, do you punch yourself in the back? Without knowing the gross anatomy of your intended victim, are you as likely to kill yourself with a glancing blow to the watermelon's sternum (trying to use the manufacturer's terminology here)? Is the blade sharp, or does the CO2 do most of the cutting?
Did anyone else notice how long it took for the guy in the demo video to activate the knife in the watermelon? There's a huge difference between a stationary, docile 10-pound watermelon and a thrashing, pissed-off 150-pound fish regarded as the top of the ocean food chain.

And let's not forget our gas laws from Chemistry class. The deeper you dive, the lower the temperature and the higher the pressure--both of which reduce the volume of gas this thing will spit out, reducing its effectiveness. Furthermore, you're in a very wet environment, and you also have a good chance of creating ice instantly in the gas channel when you activate it, rendering the system inoperable.

Used on land, what...you think this is going to stop a bear? And if you use this on another human being, what do you think is going to kill him? Having a 5.25" blade buried in his gut? Or the embarassment of making the biggest, messiest, smelliest shart EVAH when you pull the blade out? (And again, he'll be sharting all over YOU.)

It's an interesting, expensive, but ultimately useless gadget.

http://digg.com/odd_stuff/WASP_Knife_Will_Freeze_And_Blow_Up_Your_Organs?t=17063875
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:28 PM
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45. Okay, so if I make a website claiming I'm God-Emperor of the Universe...
...that makes it true, then, right?

Step one: think though logic before making an ass of ones self.
Step two: repeat step one.
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MJJP21 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:42 AM
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21. No prank
Here is the website and watch the video. In close encounters this is better than a gun.

http://www.waspknife.com/
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:27 AM
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6. The Daily Mail
As reliable as any other supermarket tabloid
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:38 AM
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8. Here's a picture from an inventor's magazine, article published in June:
Advanced Hunting Knife May Be A Bit Too Much
Posted June 26th, 2008 by Joshua Khan

Weaponry has always been advanced by technology. Insuring the safety of divers, hunters and campers is important, but the concept behind one new invention might take personal weaponry a bit too far.

Created by WASP, the Injector Knife is claimed to be the best weapon to use when defending yourself from an enemy (especially dangerous animals). Without the use of poison, the knife is capable of paralyzing large animals with a single stab.

The way the WASP Injector Knife works is that it forces a massive amount of freezing compressed air into a stab wound. By pressing a button, the gas releases instantly through a thin tube that exits near the tip of the knife’s blade. When released, the gas then expands to the size of a basketball inside whatever the knife has been thrust into. WASP claims that the shock and tissue freezing can stop the largest land and underwater predators.

But do individuals in today’s society really need this type of personal weaponry? It works as a great weapon for soldiers and marines, but as far as hunters and campers go, it’s a bit too much. Not to sound like an animal extremist, but if a person was to come into contact with a mammal like a bear, do they really need to attack the animal with such a dangerous weapon? If the animal did appear to be a threat, then it’s understandable. But who’s going to have the courage to attack the animal and then remember to push the button to release the gas?

http://inventorspot.com.nyud.net:8090/files/images/June%2026th%20-%20Wasp%20Knife2.jpg


http://inventorspot.com/articles/advanced_hunting_knife_may_be_a_bit_too_much_14882

The article links its website:
http://www.waspknife.com/
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:53 AM
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13. Okay, I get it now
It uses something like the CO2 cartridges used in paintball.

That is one very sadistic weapon.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:20 AM
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30. Why do I get the feeling . . .
. . . that this knife will be used on very few large and dangerous animals other than the two legged version.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:44 AM
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10. You can julienne potatoes and freeze them for later!
:rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:09 AM
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11. So.... they've nearly perfected Suzumebachi?
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:57 AM
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14. What??? There's all sorts of situations
where you'd need to use a weapon like this.

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:43 AM
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15. Oh, silly me, I thought it was for organ harvesting
:eyes: good grief. Sick!
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 11:03 AM
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34. that was my very first thought too!
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:26 AM
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16. They should probably keep an eye on this chap:






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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:22 AM
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32. lol at that bullet that made yaphet kotto inflate in Live and Let Die
:nuke:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:37 AM
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18. Would it kill a bear wielding a banana ?
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 04:38 AM by edwardlindy
:shrug:

edit - BTW in the UK I guess it could get reclassified as being a gun.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:13 AM
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19. Or vice-versa?





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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:51 AM
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22. When it comes here
Of course - the right to bear arms will apply to this too.

Knives don't freeze organs and kill people. People do. And all that other nonsense.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:01 AM
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23. ummm - it COMES from HERE ...
http://www.waspknife.com/


The WASP Injector Knife is ideally used as a:
- Diving Knife
- Hunting Knife
- Tactical Knife

WASP Injection Systems, Inc. does not condone the killing of innocent creatures.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:09 AM
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24. Silly me.
Thanks.

Now I need several. Every home needs them for safety.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:06 PM
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39. Oh dear. In a serious thread, that caused me to laugh out loud.
Of course you're right, and it isn't funny.
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scrinmaster Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:55 AM
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25. Same kind of shitstorm that happened when that Swiss company made a tiny novelty revolver.
Like criminals were going to carry around a $5000 gun that couldn't pierce skin.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:19 AM
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26. I wouldn't mind having one if a shark was bearing down on me.
But, I think most of the people who would buy this thing would end up accidentally using it on themselves or their drunken friends.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:20 PM
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36. As a hiker, I wouldn't mind having one in cougar and bear country.
It's actually a good idea for a personal defense weapon. I usually carry a snubnose revolver when hiking in the national forests as a "just in case" weapon (which I've had to use once to scare off a predator of the cougar variety, and twice to scare off predators of the two legged variety) but I've never been comfortable having a loaded, unsecured weapon in my pack. I'd much rather carry a knife, but knives aren't effective in a bear attack. This one, at least, might be.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:15 PM
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41. the popping noise might frighten smaller predators
But getting a bear or cougar to stand still for 5 seconds while you plunge a dagger in and hope your one charge goes off in the right place is probably less efficient (not to mention humane) than a taser.
Dykes used his Taser gun when the bear got too close.

"He was about seven or eight feet away when I shocked him," he said.

The bear fell to the ground, breaking the connection with the weapon, which administers a strong electrical charge. The animal fled into the woods and disappeared.

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:VhiBsQ0IjA4J:www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi%3Ffile%3D/news/archive/2006/01/05/national/a124349S92.DTL

Not really an ideal scenario if you have to get within swatting distance, but it still seems safer for both parties than a soda knife.

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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:49 PM
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44. I've considered a Taser, but I've been told they can be ineffective against thick fur.
And I've been told that the smaller non-taser stun guns are ineffective against predators of any type.

The other issue is that Tasers are subject to varying levels of legality and regulation, while knives are generally legal everywhere.

This is a last-defense weapon designed to kill an animal that is actively trying to eat you. If you can get the knife between a pair of ribs, it WILL be effective in killing them quickly. As for "humane", it's no less inhumane than shooting them, and quite frankly I don't know how worried I'd be about "humanely" killing an animal that's chewing on my arm or skull.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:38 AM
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27. This is from the Daily Mail. I.e. Daily Sensational Lie with a Dollop of Hate
I'll wait to see it in a more reliable source before I start getting too paranoid on the subject!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:06 AM
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29. I wonder if this will find its way into the Special Operations arsenal
If it isn't already there...
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:36 AM
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31. Nah, not stealthy enough.
It would probably make too much noise and give away your position if you miss and the gas injector goes off, you'd be better off with a rusty machete. It's better to be primitive and simple.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:49 AM
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33. If this keeps up, some folks may make some money smuggling handguns into the U.K.
The IRA provos and the Tamil Tigers come to mind.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:16 PM
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35. Cool
:wtf:
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Sin Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:45 PM
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37. Read about this knife about a month or so ago.
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 01:46 PM by Sin
Saw an article about it on geekologie.
a new one was just posted today heres another vid of it in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_NC-_fvKs&eurl=http://www.geekologie.com/2008/07/wasp_knife_in_action_goodbye_w.php

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:14 PM
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38. ramping up the moral panic for the furtherance of the security state
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:12 PM
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40. I wonder how many UK crooks are going to shell out US $400 for a knife
My guess is few or none.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:45 PM
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42. Sounds really nasty.
Almost as bad as a gun -- but still safer because it won't kill at a distance.

How quaint of the Brits to be worried about it. How wonderful to have such worries, in comparison to the worries about nutcases with powerful firearms here in the U.S.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:04 PM
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43. This implement will surely result in at least one Darwin Award winner
http://www.waspknife.com

I wonder how long it will take for someone to freeze his/her own innards?
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:05 AM
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46. It's pretty obvious
why we are having all these knife attacks stories in the right wing media. So that American gun nuts can start preaching the doctrine of gun law to us poor oppressed Brits and so that British gun nuts can start agitating for the right to arm themselves with firearms so that they can play vigilante like Jodi Foster or Tony Martin.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. The knife attack stories are actually having the effect...
...of riling people up in favour of stricter weapons controls, which is anathema to the US gun nuts.

And I must admit that knife crime has been a genuine problem well before the media decided that it was a good bandwagon to jump on.

If there is a sinister effect of all these stories though, it's that they do serve to multiply people's fears about visiting the rougher parts of town.

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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:12 PM
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48. Genius
There are laws that prevent this type of weapon from being advertised in the UK. So what do the police do? Complain about it, despite the fact that it has yet to cause them or anyone else any problems. The media then pick up the complaints and print a dramatic tale, thereby skirting the advertising laws. Genius.
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